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 Post subject: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Sat May 28, 2016 5:15 am 
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a lot of time has been put into numbering the crowns, but i dont see much input on the san remos.
anyone have a ref or good data as to how many were made?
i know from friends on pm/email, that the old records were destroyed in the great miami hurricane. but surely someone would know thru prior knowledge.
anyone care to stab at it?
reb?
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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 10:56 am 
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Bobby-O:

I don't believe anybody knows how many San Remo grades were built. However, they were made from very early in the M32 production to the very end. I am writing of the 32 "turtle bowl" style of engraving, which is much more pleasing to the eye than the current style offered today. I do feel that they are not nearly as rare as the following, (in order, most common to rarest.)

The Super Crown. Offered only in Model 32. Particularly rare in 4-barrel sets.
The Munchen. Offered only very late in Model 32 production.
The Monte Carlo. Actually, the Monte Carlo is very rare in both the 32 and the 80. Still offered today, perhaps the most sought after grade in the secondary market. Very, very rare.

Please note: The rarest does not mean the most valuable...... i.e., a Munchen is not going to bring the money a Super Crown will bring.

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Fri Jun 03, 2016 11:49 am 
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mine has a dog and 2 birds on left, 3 birds on right. 5000 serial. the detail on the dog is striking.
anyone know who the engraver was on the san remos?

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 10:58 am 
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ive never seen 2 san remos the same to date.
anyone got any input on that?

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 2:12 pm 
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bobski wrote:
ive never seen 2 san remos the same to date.
anyone got any input on that?

Bobby-Boy:
One engraver did not do all the San Remo guns. There were several engravers, Master Engraver Roland Schmidt for one "RS" signature (rare on a San Remo). The San Remo was the entry level fully engraved gun; thus, many engravers tackled it during its years of production. I've seen some duck heads and beaks which looked like Disney cartoons.......
M.D.

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Fri Jul 15, 2016 3:17 pm 
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exactly my point. mine seems to be much nicer than the ones ive seen so far.
where do i look for a signature?

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Sat Mar 18, 2017 7:48 pm 
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No records available for production numbers on the San Remo according to KI.
What is interesting to me is that;
I have one San Remo(1967) with roman numeral II stamped over roman numeral III on the left side on the stock tang. ( the grade of engraving is stamped in this area on all 32s as most of you are aware). The engraved pointer on the left side of the receiver is very nearly the same as my Crown Grade.
I have often wondered if some of the San Remo grades started as Crown and for some reason be it an engraving slip or what ever were completed as San Remo. I read that in a forum and really never put merit to that theory but it does raise the question at least in my mind.

My 2 San Remos also have gold accents and engravings that were obviously after market additions that were very well done IMO. Would any of you be able to enlighten me as to who may have done the gold accents?

Don't mean to jump your thread Bobski questions are all relevant to the grade so I hope you do not mind the question.

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 8:26 pm 
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Hey Rebel Sympathy

Here is a Monte Carlo in the 5xxx serial number range. It's engraved by Niemaier (sp) and I've owned it probably 25 years or more. Original bluing with no wear. Turned down lots of offers but just can't part with it yet.



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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Wed Mar 22, 2017 5:57 am 
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gailmk67 wrote:
Would any of you be able to enlighten me as to who may have done the gold accents?

Regards, Joe

I have been told Bill Mains did a lot of that.

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
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Rebel Sympathy wrote:
gailmk67 wrote:
Would any of you be able to enlighten me as to who may have done the gold accents?

Regards, Joe

I have been told Bill Mains did a lot of that.



Thanks Reb- The gold enhancements are very well. Quality seems to be at his standards.

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 5:57 pm 
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southj wrote:
Hey Rebel Sympathy

Here is a Monte Carlo in the 5xxx serial number range. It's engraved by Niemaier (sp) and I've owned it probably 25 years or more. Original bluing with no wear. Turned down lots of offers but just can't part with it yet.



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Beautiful. That looks like it may be Dockwiller wood too.

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2017 6:19 pm 
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Yes it has a nice Dockwiller stock . He must be getting pretty old by now.
I've had it since about 1978


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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 12:25 pm 
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Yes, Jack is very old. In fact, a dealer friend of mine who has bought lots of stocks from Jack told me Jack had retired and is doing no more stocks. Yet, a new seller on the I-net states he is now working for him. I think the new seller's name is Triggersport, or something close. Maybe the guy shot-up Jack with some "youth tonic" elixir. They are/were at opposite ends of the country. So, go figure for yourself. Anyway, I hope Jack lives forever. I love his work and hope he is still turning them out for whomever..... That would be great.

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 Post subject: Re: k32 san remo production numbers
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 1:50 pm 
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ok...we went from san remo numbering........... to crowns and dock's wood.
no problem. still good info being exchanged.
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