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 Post subject: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Tue Aug 20, 2013 6:23 pm 
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I just bought a new 20gauge ultra slug. im am more of a rifle guy and am use to shooting from a rest. when I shoot rifle I only hold the buttstock and let the forend sit in the rest, but when I did this with the ush my shots were all over the place. do I need to hold the forend down when shooting the slug gun? I was using 2-3/4 win gold partitions and sst's. I had like 8 inch groups at 50 yds. please help me ...to expensive for a guessing game.




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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:11 pm 
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jascott wrote:
I just bought a new 20gauge ultra slug. im am more of a rifle guy and am use to shooting from a rest. when I shoot rifle I only hold the buttstock and let the forend sit in the rest, but when I did this with the ush my shots were all over the place. do I need to hold the forend down when shooting the slug gun? I was using 2-3/4 win gold partitions and sst's. I had like 8 inch groups at 50 yds. please help me ...to expensive for a guessing game.


Yep, you answered your own question...grip the forend tight, in to your shoulder and down. I went through this with my Abolt and souped up loads with hubel458's sabots and after adding weight to the gun and taking a different shooting approach then my rifles, stuff started to work. I've read on here in other threads that slower moving slugs are affected by recoil much more than a rifle bullet is, maybe slug hasnt quite left barrel before the onset of recoil? All I know is from MY experiences, tighter is better...


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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 5:39 pm 
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Here's a link that I've recommended to people for years. I think you'll find it helpful.....

http://litfld.com/wp/?page_id=44


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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:07 pm 
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thanks guys . im new to the slug guns . im 23 now ,I have a rem 870 youth I tried when I was younger but didn't shoot very good just always thought it was me being nervous when shooting. thought I would give shotguns another try. I live in Indiana so no rifle hunting . I always use muzzleloaders but tired of messing with powder, bullet , swabbing .


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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:21 pm 
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I live in Indiana as well so it's nice to see a fellow Hoosier on the site......

Don't forget that it is legal in Indiana to deer hunt with certain rifles.


Some legal calibers include (but aren't limited to).....

.357 magnum, .357 maximum .41 magnum, .44 magnum, .44 special, .45 colt, .450 bushmaster .454 casull, .458 socom, .460 s&w, .475 linebaugh, .480 ruger, .50 action express, .500 s&w and .50 beowulf.

Hope this helps......


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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:23 pm 
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...and a couple more...

.358 wssm, and .358 hoosier.


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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 8:52 pm 
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I thought about some of those but just afraid of the range on some of them. not sure where your from but I looked at the 358 in Wabash,in but just get mad because the velocity is so close to the 308 win. but yet you cant use it here. im afraid with the ammo the way it is you wont be able to find the 358 because it has to be custom made.


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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 9:28 pm 
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jjas- how short does rifle case have to be, to use for deer in
Indiana, and can you use .585 cal if it is short enough case.
I have 585 SHE 2.7" case, could go shorter.
My 585 takes a bunch of different 58 cal Minie slugs.Ed


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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 10:39 pm 
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hubel458 wrote:
jjas- how short does rifle case have to be, to use for deer in
Indiana, and can you use .585 cal if it is short enough case.
I have 585 SHE 2.7" case, could go shorter.
My 585 takes a bunch of different 58 cal Minie slugs.Ed



The bullet has to be .357 diameter or larger. Minimum case length is 1.16 inches and maximum case length is 1.8 inches.

To the best of my knowledge there is no limit on diameter as long as it's .357 or larger. You could check with the IDNR just to be sure.


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 Post subject: Re: h&r ultra slug hunter- off rest
PostPosted: Thu Aug 22, 2013 11:54 pm 
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I cut one of my 2.7" 585 SHE cases off at 1.8",
I thought it would be 1.8". One of The 440gr and a 540 gr Minie
slug goes in perfect. Of course heavier jacketed will do
but Minie is so much better and small fraction of the cost.
Holds 80 gr ball powder.
Can have more power than 458Win over 5000 ft lbs.

So you all on here are first to hear the announcement of the---
585 HI short rifle and pistol cartridge.

585 HI (Hubel Indiana) pics later. 1.8" long case

We can get lots of cases to cut back. And my regular
585 HE dies size it ok.....Ed




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