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 Post subject: Western Field Deluxe Model 50 help (long)
PostPosted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:30 pm 
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Help please. A buddy asked me to look at an old shotgun he was given by a neighbor a while back. I cannot find any information on it anywhere.

It is a Montgomery Ward Western DeLuxe Model 50 16-ga pump. The gun has a single action bar. The barrel is about 28" with a double bead and solid rib with serrations on the top of the rib. The barrel is stamped "Browning Patent." The safety is the same as a Remington 870 in both location and external operation. The slide release is located on the left side of the receiver, right beside the trigger. There is a square notch cut out of the top of the machined receiver, into which the locking lug slips. It also has dual spring-loaded extractors.

The gun is mostly made up of machined pieces, not stampings like many newer guns. The fit is quite good. The finish, what's left of it, is almost brown. I got it apart and gave it a thorough cleaning and lubrication. Looking inside, it was somewhat reminiscent of a few JMB designs I've tinkered with. The "Browning Patent" stamp on the barrel made me wonder.

I know that Several different companies made guns for Montgomery Ward. Who made this and what manufacturer's model is it?

Overall, the gun seems to be in good condition with no barrel rings, rust, or signs of metal stress anywhere. It just looks well used and cared for.

The gun seems to have a few problems, though. When the gun is cocked and in battery, and you shake it fore and aft, there is a high-pitched metallic rattling inside the bolt. Pull the trigger and the noise goes away. I'm assuming the firing pin is making the noise. When I took it apart, there was no firing pin spring inside the bolt. Is there supposed to be one?

Second, the gun will cycle normally. Pulling the trigger will release the hammer as designed and unlock the bolt. However, if I hold the trigger down after it is pulled, and then cycle the slide, the trigger will not reset when released whether the bolt is in battery or not.

Those seem to be the only issues with the gun. Can anyone offer some help?

Thank you




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 Post subject: re: Western Field Deluxe Model 50 help (long)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 7:01 am 
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I believe this is a Stevens 520. Squareback receiver? Firing pin requires no return spring. Action slide lock spring is usually "gone by the way" in this model. Replacements are available thru Gun Parts Corp. Check to make sure it is stamped for 2 3/4 " shells.


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 Post subject: re: Western Field Deluxe Model 50 help (long)
PostPosted: Thu Oct 18, 2007 5:04 pm 
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That's it. It has a rounded receiver, though.

Does anyone have a receiver diagram or link so I can see what's missing? Also, is that part specific to the 16 ga? Finally, the barrel does not specify what sized shells it takes.

Thanks


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 Post subject: re: Western Field Deluxe Model 50 help (long)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 6:40 am 
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It is most likely a Stevens 620, with the round receiver . If the barrel is not stamped "2 3/4" then it is a 2 9/16" gun. It may cycle 2 3/4 " but not well. Recoil will be greater than average and patterns may be poor. The chamber can be machined to 2 3/4" and the choke recalibrated. The ejection port can be opened somewhat and the ejector modified. This will help cycle 2 3/4" ammo. Numrich Gun Parts has a parts schematic in thier catalog( maybe on line as well). However; it is not an assembly diagram.


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 Post subject: re: Western Field Deluxe Model 50 help (long)
PostPosted: Fri Oct 19, 2007 5:05 pm 
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Thanks for the information.

I took it to the range today to try a few live shells. All I had was 2.75" light field loads. It fired and ejected fine, but if more than two shells were placed in the magazine, it would release a round back under the bolt, which caused a bit of a headache. Other than that, it fired fine and actually patterned pretty nicely.


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 Post subject: re: Western Field Deluxe Model 50 help (long)
PostPosted: Sat Oct 20, 2007 11:22 pm 
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Sounds like the cartridge stop could be gummed up, or its spring weak. Those are good old guns and worth fixing and shooting IMO. I've got a 520 in 16 gauge and one in 20. They're still knockin' down game. Good hunting and good luck.


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 Post subject: re: Western Field Deluxe Model 50 help (long)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:19 am 
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I've been on a long quest to find the same answer as I'm needing a few parts. I've heard all kinds of answers to that question.

Near as I can discover, it IS a Stevens or Savage, though I'm not sure of the 520 as the model. I know that the Stevens model 77 is nearly identical and many parts from a few other Stevens and Savage models are the same.

FWIW, my gf has the same problem with the eject/load cycle of hers... in addition, hers doesn't lock properly after running the slide... you can jiggle it into cycling again without pulling the trigger or pressing the release... it causes her fits as it's the only shotgun that we've found to fit her well...


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 Post subject: re: Western Field Deluxe Model 50 help (long)
PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:21 am 
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I think my grandpa used to have the same gun you guys are talking about, except his was a .410. It has a couple screws on the side to take the whole sideplate off instead of working it through the trigger assembly. It always got a shell stuck in behind the carrier, and you hate to take the plate off, but it had a full choke barrel and shot like a rifle, if you didn't mind tinkering with it every now and then it was a great little gun.

Matt




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