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 Post subject: Re: Still enjoying gunsmithing school(TONS OF PICS)
PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:54 pm 
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Hello All,

Here's the latest in my 700NE project. With the load having been developed for 1500 fps, the rifle was sent back to Aaron for regulating and completing.

He received the rifle today, and here's his progress report to me.[/b]
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The entire group measures about 1-15/16" at 35 yards. That would be 2-3/4" at 50 yards. The last 2 shots, R3 & L3, ( snake-eyes ) measure about 1-9/16" center to center. That would be just over 2" at 50 yds. which would be great.

Now all I have to do is patiently wait for all the final finishing. I'll be keep you posted as more information comes available.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:56 pm 
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Hello all,

Here's the latest update from Aaron.

Its these kinds of details that separate the gunsmiths, from the "Master Gunsmiths".

I'm thinking that all that remains is; fitting the extractor, more polishing, and then Slow Rust Bluing.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:57 pm 
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Hello All,

Well, the 700 NE finally arrived home on 4/5/16. Total build time was just over 5 months. That's remarkable! But I think Aaron went above and beyond as a personal favor to me. I expect a build time of 6 - 9 months is more realistic for such a project.

Finished weight with the 28" barrels is at 18 pounds 1-1/2 ouces and 18 pounds 10 ounces loaded.

When loaded, balance point loaded is "exactly" centered on the hinge.

Fit and Finish are amazing, and I expect its Aaron's attention to detail that defines him as a Master Gunsmith. My pictures don't do it justice. Hopefully, tomorrow I'll get some nice weather so I can shoot it.

Compare these pictures with the ones on the first page; before - during - and now after.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 6:59 pm 
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Hello All,

Thanks for the support and reply.

I got out to the range today. It was COLD - temp was right at 34 degrees with sleet.

However, I managed to shoot 3 targets and get some data. Needless to say; I'm pleased with Aaron's regulation. I think you'll agree.

Next time out I'll start trying some higher velocity loads. But I have to be careful in this COLD weather so I don't BREAK.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:00 pm 
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Hello All,

Here's today's update. Not a very nice day at the range. Temperature was 30 degrees - Wind was in my face at 20mph - and it was snowing an inch per hour.

I had to cover the chronograph between strings to keep the light screens clear.

So .... I stayed with AA5744 powder to keep the powder weight down. (powder weight is a factor in gun recoil) Estimated data was obtained from AA last year and I also used some of my earlier measured velocities as a guide to "increasing the load" for the following.

I fired 4 shots with each load and recorded average velocity and group size. All were shot at 50 yards.

110g = 1680 ave vel - 2-1/4"
115g = 1780 ave vel - 2-3/8"
120g = 1840 ave vel - 1-1/4"
125g = 1940 ave vel - 1-5/8"

I used the 100yd folding leaf rear sight because yesterday the standing leaf printed low near the bottom edge of the target and I wanted to get the groups up higher for measuring. I'll dial-in the sights as needed once I settle on a load.

Let me start by saying this; I'm the first to admit that I'm not man enough to shoot a lot of these high velocity loads. I'll be saving them for when I'm in imminent danger of being eaten or stomped to death. They really kick the crap out of you.

As I recorded the data for each string, I made note of the increasing recoil level. However, after firing the first 2 brutal shots of the 125g load, the next 2 shots were drastically lower in recoil. I was a bit confued as to why that would be until I noted the low chronograph readings for those last 2 shots. They were in the 1500fps range. I had accidentally grabbed two of my regulating cartridges from yesterday that were loaded with only 95.5g of powder.

I then fired the last 2 of the 125g load into the same target so it had a 6 shot group instead of only 4. The first 3 targets were great, but the last target really tells it all. I think you'll have to agree.

I'm not sure if any time too soon I'm going to push that last load up by 3 grains just to squeeze out 2000fps. I think 1940fps with 8,360 ft/lbs of energy should do just fine for any dinosaur that might be encountered here in Wisconsin. If I do shoot a 2000fps load, (8,880 ft/lbs) I'll post the data here.

All things considered, I'm so very pleased with how this rifle build turned out. I don't think I could have expected more.

A big "Thank You" to Aaron Little. Aaron told me that this was his first 700NE - I'm sure he'll be building more.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:07 pm 
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Hey, I hunt too! Took my WW Greener 12bore on a duck hunt, she's still relevant after 120+yrs.

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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:15 pm 
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Ugh, looks like someone left a 1910 era Purdey in a soft case! This one is still in the works but will have the puts laser welded and stoned down, engraving recut, action color case hardened, and stock refinished.
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Round Action trigger plate guns anyone?
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A LC Smith I sleeved:
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:26 pm 
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An 1880's era WC Scott i restocked:
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:29 pm 
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Another conversion almost wrapped up. We took this Spanish 20ga sidelock and converted to .500 Linebaugh. This gun was also restocked with a rather nice piece of Turkish and the action was color case hardened.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 14, 2017 7:33 pm 
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Beretta I refinished the stock on and installed recoil pad:

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 15, 2017 5:48 am 
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On that 700 NE, the pictures that shows "both" front sights, lol. Can you briefly explain the purpose of the staionary vs. the flip up portion.


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The larger white sight is used for up close, low light, and faster target acquisition. The smaller one for more precise applications.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 16, 2017 6:33 pm 
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I'm glad that you're enjoying your work and so enthusiastic about it.


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PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 1:19 am 
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TDKK wrote:
Hey, I hunt too! Took my WW Greener 12bore on a duck hunt, she's still relevant after 120+yrs.

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Wow! A greener with the greener safety is one of the last guns on my list. Great job! In a later post on the WC Scott does the rifle still swing the same? Mine from them has an incredible flow


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The Greener can be yours!

The WC Scott is a 12bore shotgun, the only work I did to it was restocking.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 12:23 pm 
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I originally bought this project gun with the intention of making it mine. I've got some other business investments I'd like to make soon and the money from this project would help. I'm selling this as a project to be completed in my shop.

The gun is a 12bore C. Hellis back-action SLNE, double Purdey underlugs with third fastener. Forend is an anson pushrod release. This gun is no lightweight but would make a great fowler or clays gun imo.

Barrels are measured as follows;
30" overall length.
Originally proofed and remains for 3" Chambers and 1 1/2oz of shot.
R barrel.
.729" bore
.014" choke
.040" min wall thickness

L barrel
.731" bore
.040" choke
.040" wall thickness

The project will entail a complete restoration. The engraving will be recut, action recolor case hardened, all metal refinished. New pins all around. This gun has no stock, it will be stocked to your specified dimensions with a stunning piece of Turkish I have set aside unless you supply your own.

Interested parties please contact me at the info provided below.

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PostPosted: Mon Jul 03, 2017 10:28 pm 
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TDKK wrote:
The Greener can be yours!

The WC Scott is a 12bore shotgun, the only work I did to it was restocking.

I'm interested. Lemme know




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