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 Post subject: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 1:22 pm 
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Hey guys-

Just got off w/ Remington, who were unable to answer my inquiry with any sort of conviction. Here's the deal.

Just bought this gun for $100, clean as hell. Very happy with the purchase. I was looking for this gun in 12 when I found it, and just recently learned of the fact that this happened to be built on a 12 frame. Could this go both ways?

I asked a new 12 ga barrel would fit this gun. They said no. When I asked if an old 12 ga barrel would fit the gun, they said "that should work........? Yeah, that should work....." Didn't instill too much confidence in me.

I'd like to hear some thoughts before pulling the trigger on another barrel. Would be great to have the same gun with an upland and a waterfowl barrel.

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Matt




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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 2:48 pm 
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I am guessing that many of the various parts in the gun are sized up for the 20 gauge shell.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 6:53 pm 
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You cannot change a 20 to a 12, or vice versa, just by changing the barrel if that's what you are asking. Somewhere I have an old parts list, but I don't know where offhand. If you can find one of those you can figure out all the other parts that also need changing, but it's not a 20 minute operation. If you decide on another 20 gauge barrel, make sure you get an older standard weight version, because the newer LW barrels will not fit.

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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 7:41 pm 
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I've got one of those 20s and thought the same thing. The bolt face is too narrow so there's another you'll need to replace. 200 for a barrel and almost 100 for a bolt and you have almost bought a nice used 12.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2012 11:12 pm 
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Thanks guys.

That's exactly what I'm thinking...I have no problem purchasing a 12'er if it looks like i'm going to be a few hundred in. If it was a quick swap that would be one thing...


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 7:28 am 
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That magazine tube wouldn't be a quick change.
Unless you enjoyed a single shot.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2012 11:03 am 
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Check to see if a 12ga. shell will even fit through the ejection port, I have a old 16ga. 870 and a 12ga. shell won't fit through the port on it.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 12:57 pm 
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Upland, have tryed the 12ga. shell to see if it will fit through the ejection port? Also try it in the magazine. You just might have to add a receiver to that parts list. The best advice is to buy a complete 870 12ga. shotgun.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2012 7:22 pm 
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Sounds like all you have to do is switch out the barrel, reciever, magazine tube, bolt, maybe the action bars and a few other pieces and you'll be in good shape.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 3:39 pm 
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I am looking for a 20 gauge receiver with an X at the end of the serial number. If you want to sell the for you hundred bucks, I might be interested.

Thanks

Mark


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:29 pm 
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Some would have you believe that an old parts list would have the parts to convert a standard WT 20 into a 12ga. but I don't think that they have tryed it.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2012 7:46 pm 
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If you can find the parts list you would be able to compile a complete list of what you needed. Filling the list may be another matter all together. And of course some skill would be required to accomplish the swap as well. You could probably earn the money to buy a used 12 gauge Wingmaster working at $2 an hour faster.

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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
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I do not think the parts alone will convert the 20 into a 12 because the ejection port and the magazine opening from the receiver are to small for a 12ga. shell. I know that the magazines tubes are the same but the receiver is reduced where the shell enters the magazine.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:20 pm 
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It turns out that the receiver, the magazine, and the ejection port can all accomodate 3" 12 gauge shells : )

I still don't know that replacing a barrel AND bolt are worthwhile, unless it can be done more cheaply than I realize.

It would be nice to have a 12 ga magnum without spending much though.


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 Post subject: Re: 1970 Remington Wingmaster 20 gauge "x" serial #
PostPosted: Fri Jan 20, 2012 9:28 pm 
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I'm assuming this would suffice for the bolt?
http://www.heddonpal.com/item.asp?n=870-002&d=23&b=1

Shouldn't be too hard to find a used wingmaster barrel in 12.




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