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 Post subject: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:22 pm 
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what harm happens if the gun is fired (once, w/ lead}without the choke tube in place???




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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:27 pm 
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Probably nothing. You might need to clean out a bit of plastic, if your choke is hard to screw in. Some guys shoot "threads" at close targets.

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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 6:30 pm 
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Don't make a habit of it, clean it, and all should be fine. Do it a lot (which is stupid as they make Cylinder choke tubes) isn't the smartest thing to do.

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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 7:41 pm 
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it would be for a home defense Mossburg Bantam


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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 9:11 pm 
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Does it have a barrel threaded for choke tubes? If it does, get one that is appropriate

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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Fri Jul 28, 2017 10:44 pm 
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It sounds like you just shot it once, without realizing that the choke wasn't installed? Just screw the choke back in and remember to replace it again the next time you clean it. Chokes should be oiled or greased when reinserted, to keep them from seizing.

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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
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Sounds like to me he doesn't have a cylinder choke and wants to leave the choke out of the gun when it's sitting ready for home defense.

If so, should be fine, chances are you'll never shoot it like that. Still, just buy a cylinder choke... You may forget it's not in there...


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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:23 am 
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DallasCMT wrote:
Sounds like to me he doesn't have a cylinder choke and wants to leave the choke out of the gun when it's sitting ready for home defense.

If so, should be fine, chances are you'll never shoot it like that. Still, just buy a cylinder choke... You may forget it's not in there...



You are correct with my reason for asking,,,,,,however if I went and bought a $50 open choke tube, it would guarantee that I would never use that gun for that purpose :lol:


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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
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Mossberg chokes aren't that expensive compared to a new barrel :wink:
use whatever choke you have; the difference is spread at HD distances is negligible anyway.

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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 8:40 am 
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Assuming the Bantam is a 20ga, here is a skeet tube for less than $15 plus shipping.

https://www.cheaperthandirt.com/product ... e=&from=fn

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:09 am 
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oneounceload wrote:
Mossberg chokes aren't that expensive compared to a new barrel :wink:
use whatever choke you have; the difference is spread at HD distances is negligible anyway.


There you go!


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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 9:32 am 
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oneounceload wrote:
Mossberg chokes aren't that expensive compared to a new barrel :wink:
use whatever choke you have; the difference is spread at HD distances is negligible anyway.


I was hoping that the threads inside the barrel would some how really open the pattern,as in ''scattergun" ...... so much discussion about how to tighten a pattern but little on how to really open one, ala '' Blunderbust''....... for home defense w/ a shotgun, 12'' pattern at 10' would be ideal....otherwise one would be better off w/ a pistol

btw; my other option would be to put a hacksaw to a old but beautiful Ithaca md 37 16ga FC that was bought to get around the steel shot for ducks law...........not going to happen


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Be advised that the end of the barrel without a choke tube in there is much weaker and more susceptible to damage. Knew a fellow who was cleaning his gun and had it propped against the bench and it fell down and the end of the barrel was bent too bad to put in a choke tube. We did get it straightened out and the tube had the threads at the bottom so it should be okay, but it was a little dicey.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2017 6:58 pm 
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Making the pattern open up even more can be done with ammo selection. Just remember, you are responsible for every pellet you shoot, so any that go wide of your intended target and then hit someone else can leave you liable.

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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 12:10 am 
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A spreader or diffuser choke could widen the pattern while protecting the choke threads, but at 10-20 feet, the difference would be so minor (1/2" ?) It wouldn't be worth it. Not even sure buckshot would be affected by this type of choke. I'd just get a CYL or SKT or IC and be done with it.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 6:19 am 
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saltysenior wrote:
DallasCMT wrote:
Sounds like to me he doesn't have a cylinder choke and wants to leave the choke out of the gun when it's sitting ready for home defense.

If so, should be fine, chances are you'll never shoot it like that. Still, just buy a cylinder choke... You may forget it's not in there...



You are correct with my reason for asking,,,,,,however if I went and bought a $50 open choke tube, it would guarantee that I would never use that gun for that purpose :lol:



I would hope to hell that you never need to use it for home defense.

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Nothing happens. I do it all the time with Beretta auto barrels. So do a lot of other shooters. I would not do it with a barrel with thin walls at the muzzle.


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 9:55 pm 
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I would just suggest either a spreader or cylinder choke, and DO NOT USE 00- buck shot, those are .38 cal balls flying through your house. The FBI suggests #4 shot. If you don't want to kill your kids or wife through a wall 00- buck shot isn't a good idea, not to mention it will destroy your house.

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 Post subject: Re: CHOKE TUBE
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If that were true, it would be the best $50 investment you ever made!

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You are correct with my reason for asking,,,,,,however if I went and bought a $50 open choke tube, it would guarantee that I would never use that gun for that purpose :lol:

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2017 11:08 pm 
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Actually, the FBI recommended minimum shot size for self-defense is #4 buckshot, not #4 shot (aka #4 birdshot).

See:
http://www.thetruthaboutguns.com/2010/0 ... us-rounds/
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http://ammo.com/bullet-type/4-buck

#4 buckshot is approximately .24 caliber.

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I would just suggest either a spreader or cylinder choke, and DO NOT USE 00- buck shot, those are .38 cal balls flying through your house. The FBI suggests #4 shot. If you don't want to kill your kids or wife through a wall 00- buck shot isn't a good idea, not to mention it will destroy your house.



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