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 Post subject: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:44 pm 
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Has anyone shot or handled this version of the XLR5? I am looking for a duck gun, and while I wouldn't mind owing a Beretta, I am big fan of CG, their products and customer service. I have found very little about this gun online - is it a recent release?

In addition to any general observations, I am interested to know if it comes with stock shims and how heavy duty the camo coating is.

Thanks in advance, Doverham




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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 1:50 pm 
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They are a couple of months away.

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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Fri Feb 05, 2016 2:24 pm 
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I saw them listed on the Fabarm website, and assumed they were already in circulation.

Looks like you got your hands on one, at least. Is it worth waiting for?

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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
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I'll review it as soon as it gets here.


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
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It appears the release button to be more recessed than on the target guns?

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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2016 8:24 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Thu Feb 11, 2016 12:47 pm 
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Fabarm/CG just informed me that this model will be available in May, and it does come with stock shims.


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Wed Mar 16, 2016 8:18 pm 
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I'm intrigued, I wonder if it'll make me want to give up my Super Vinci for one!?


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Thu Mar 17, 2016 6:28 pm 
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It would depend on your level of undying love for 3-1/2 inch shells.

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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:02 pm 
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Does anyone have any updates on the release of this model? I just called Kittery Trading Post in ME (who is listed as a Fabarm dealer), and they had no information of this model's release status. Last I heard, they were looking at a mid-May release date.

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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 2:08 pm 
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Fabarm USA has them, they are waiting for the new choke tube exclusive to the Waterfowler to arrive, shipping out either end of this week, or next week. viewtopic.php?f=3&t=436114&start=20

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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Wed Jun 01, 2016 3:09 pm 
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Thanks Randy


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Tue Jul 26, 2016 2:59 pm 
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I was finally able to order this gun from Kittery Trading Post and hope to pick it up Friday, followed by a trip to my gun club on the way home. I will post some follow up comments once I shoot it.


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:15 pm 
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dover', the listed MSRP is $1650. Did you do any better than this? Or was it full price and shipping, FFL fee, etc.? Thanks, Bob


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 2:33 pm 
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Their price is $1500 at the store.


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:24 pm 
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doverham, I looked at Kittery's website and didn't see Fabarm listed. Their prices for Remington V3's are high. Even higher than Cabelas. No one in my area stocks the Fabarm units. There are two local dealers listed and I talked to them on the phone. Cabelas said they couldn't even order them. The listed LOP of 14.5" is too much for me. Would have liked to have shouldered one anyway. I did pick up a V3 to join my Versa Max. The Fabarm looks fabulous. Randy Wakeman likes 'em. Looked at his review(s).


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 10:43 am 
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I picked this gun up on Friday and had a chance to shoot some SCs that afternoon. This is my first semi, so I don't have a lot to compare it too, other than my double barrel guns.

I was impressed with the gun right out of the box. The "fit and finish" (if that is the right term for a plastic-stocked, camo semi) is good - no rough edges or defects in the finish, etc.). The gun came with stock shims, a total of four chokes and sling swivels. The chokes provided were flush 5/10, 7/10, and 9/10 chokes and an extended "special long-range steel" choke. It was not clear whether the number ratings were based on steel or lead - I have a question into Fabarm about that. My only complaint is that the zippered soft breakdown case was not particularly well-made and appears to be an after-thought - who carries a waterfowl semi around in a breakdown case?

Shooting-wise, I was very pleased with the gun. When I first picked the gun up, it seemed a bit "thick," but I did not notice that once I was shooting the gun. It felt well-balanced and handled very well on a wide range of targets. Right out of the box, I shot it as well as any of my clay target guns. The 5/10 choke smoked targets at ~30 yards.

I shoot SCs with the gun unmounted, and my test for how well a gun handles is whether I notice mounting and pointing the gun as I move to the bird. This gun passed that test well - it just felt like I was pointing at the bird with my left hand, with no distraction from the gun. I can't say I am in love with the red San Juan worm on the end of the rib, but actually did not notice it while shooting. The trigger was better than I would have expected - clean break, not too heavy to notice.

The gun handled my light (1 oz, 1200 fps) reloads without an issue. The shells cycled plenty fast enough for second shots. I have not had a chance to run anything heavier through it. I will next month for early goose season.

KTP's price was $1499, and they took a Beretta SPI on trade, so I am pleased with the whole transaction. I actually think this gun handles better than the 12 ga. 32" SPI.


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 11:02 am 
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All of the Fabarm chokes, whether XLR5, L4S, XLR5 Waterfowler can be used with steel shot, tungsten shot, etc., or lead as you wish.

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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:23 pm 
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Thanks Randy. I was not clear with my question. The 5/10 choke is marked "Medium" as in medium distance, which I take to mean it equates to a Modified choke. But is that with steel or lead shot?


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 Post subject: Re: FABARM XLR5 Waterfowler
PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2016 12:40 pm 
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Both.

For pheasants, last year, I used the 5/10 choke exclusively (L4S) . . . out to 50 yards, with lead. Testing the Waterfowler with Kent FastSteel #2, 1480 fps, the 7/10 choke is what I preferred to the 9/10. With smaller shot, or different shells, the 9/10 chokes may have been more what I was looking for.

A lot depends on the shell. A good way to evaluate is start with the 5/10 and then decide if you want more density, or less. The 9/10 chokes might well be more in-line with a turkey or predator load application, but that's up to you.

The Trulock Super Waterfowl #2 choke, for example, that I've used in other guns, has a .040 in. constriction. It is all test and trial with a specific shell.



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