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 Post subject: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 4:15 pm 
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What hull is better for loading a good quality hunting load for turkey / fox
fiocchi
multi hull
active (if i could find em )

also any other suggestions welcome on hulls loads wads shot and choke restriction

i just recieved turkey ranger load data from bpi
also roll or fold crimp



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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 9:41 pm 
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If you are loading really heavy payloads, Activ Hulls have a huge interior capacity. I have some 2 3/4" Activ Penetrator Shells that have a 1 1/2 oz payload of Nickel Plated #4s.

They also made a 3" version with 2 oz of #4 or #6.

At 4 1/2 dram equivelent , They will loosen your fillings.

If you search trapshooters.com . You will find some guys with once fired Activ 2 3/4" hulls they might part with.

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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2009 10:51 pm 
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Okay, forgive me for being uninformed, but I'm curious now about the Active Hulls in 2-3/4"

The ballsitics products article says they are discontinued.

The Shotgun World ????????? link offers to sell them?

And on top of all these things, someone here just yesterday wrote that the
HIGH BRASS feature in hulls, does not mean today, the same POWERFUL HUNTING LOAD that it used to, because todays hulls are already as good with low brass.


http://www.ballisticproducts.com/bpi/ar ... vhulls.htm


http://www.shotgunworld.com/ammo_s092000.html



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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 12:31 am 
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Yes, brass height, or even lack of such means nothing (just marketing hype).

The ticket for the above load is you want a hull with the most amount of volume you can find(in it), hence the reason that the responder suggested the active hulls.


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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 2:15 am 
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You don't need a special hull for 2 3/4" 1 1/2oz loads,

I load a similar load in Winchester AA hulls with no problem.
Those AAs can take a real beating,
I've loaded them over 6 times now and they're still kickin'!

I fold crimp but that's just because I don't have the tools or desire to roll crimp.

they pattern great through my Win 1300 with truglo gobbler stopper choke.


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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 4:39 am 
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ok maybe i wasent clear enough .....
i am looking to load mag loads for turkeys and fox i am interested in the load data from bpi turkey ranger wad the three hulls that are listed in my first post are the 3 most common hulls for bpi s load data what hulls in every ones opinion is a better lasting hull one that loads easy crimps niceand i can load a few times
i doubt that it is wise to load a big load of blue dot or longshot into win aa
i do relize that brass length now a days doesent mean much .
i am looking to load 3 in
also have a few (6-8) old activ all red 3 in hulls around they seem to shot so nice and are hard on a turkey
if any one has any other loads with different componets i am interested
any one use bpi wadsfor heavy loads

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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 6:41 am 
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I have some once fired activ hulls if anyone is interested. $10.00 per hundred plus shipping. I think I have around 500. I shoot 7/8oz loads now and there's no wad for that in an Activ hull.

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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Thu Oct 29, 2009 5:21 pm 
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what length and are they the ones that are all red no metal or brass showing???? :D

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PostPosted: Fri Oct 30, 2009 8:45 am 
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PaCrowbuster:

There is a guy on trapshooters.com that is selling brand new (never been crimped or fired) Primed, Activ hulls in both 2 3/4 " (1000) and 3 " (500). Send an e-mail to this guy:

joe1234@ameritech.net

FYI - You used to be able to buy new, primed hulls from the factory. Apparently someone has had them stored all these years.


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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 8:57 am 
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no on has turkey ranger wads from bpi? :?
guess ill just have to test em out :twisted:

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Okay guys, set me straight here.


Is the Activ Hull a straight-walled, such that it replaces a Federal?

Can someone tell me what a WANDA is?


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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:05 am 
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Well in our forum, a Wanda is not Wanda Jackson but an old discontinued shotshell. I found a description in my Lymans #1 from 1969. See it below.

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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
PostPosted: Sun Nov 01, 2009 10:21 am 
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And here is that other one. It has more internal volume than any Federal, as far as I know.

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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
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The ones I have are red and all plastic. Activ didn't produce a hull with metal exposed.

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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
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what is the hull length 2 3/4 or 3 in
how many fires



and i may be wrong but i thout i seen an active hull at the local range that was not all red and had a brass base
i only got a 2 sec look as it was going from bag to gun so i may be wrong

i am looking for the all red ones 8)

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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
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Curly-Nohair wrote:
And here is that other one. It has more internal volume than any Federal, as far as I know.
Curly-

I suspect it's a toss-up whether the Activ hull holds more than the Federal One-Piece Plastic hull shown on the right in the image below. (I posted the same image on a thread in early October where loading of the hull was briefly discussed: LINK)

The Federal hulls are still being made, and may be more available than the Activ.
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 Post subject: Re: HULLS FOR TURKEY LOADS
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pitted bore wrote:
Curly-Nohair wrote:
And here is that other one. It has more internal volume than any Federal, as far as I know.
Curly-

I suspect it's a toss-up whether the Activ hull holds more than the Federal One-Piece Plastic hull shown on the right in the image below. (I posted the same image on a thread in early October where loading of the hull was briefly discussed: LINK)

The Federal hulls are still being made, and may be more available than the Activ.
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After looking at that picture, it would be hard to doubt your analysis.
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