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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 4:57 pm 
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Anyone know why the GAEP comes in a set?



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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
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Because each one is for doing different hull materials, here is the set description

OTC Steel roll crimper for paper case for round edge and crimp closure.
STC Steel roll crimper for paper hulls for round edge and crimp closure.
OTP Steel roll crimper for plastic case for round edge and crimp closure.
BOP Steel roll crimper for Gualandi slugs.
BN1/BN2/BN3/BN4 Steel roll crimper for crimp closure

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 5:07 pm 
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I just realized that I have some BPI clear overshot cards, so I will try those on my Remington Club hulls. Now I am wondering about other materials that they make overshot cards from.

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Fri Feb 04, 2011 7:41 pm 
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miestrojerry wrote:
I just realized that I have some BPI clear overshot cards, so I will try those on my Remington Club hulls. Now I am wondering about other materials that they make overshot cards from.

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Jerry the most common overshot cards are made from .030 thick paper/cardboard stock. They are available from Circlefly (http://www.circlefly.com/) and I believe Midway also sells them.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
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TB,
Thanks for pointing me to the Circle Fly website, they have the .025 overshot cards and BPI/MIdway have the .030 overshot cards. Is there any difference in the performance and the reloading between the two sizes?

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 5:32 am 
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What is the advantage of roll crimping vs a 6 or 8pt crimp? Or maybe I should be asking when do you use a roll crimp?

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 8:23 am 
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I cut my own overshot cards. 12ga I believe is a 7/8" hole saw detoothed and sharpened. 16ga is a 20ga hull brass. I use whatever heavy cardpaper I can. Primer sleeves work well as do cereal boxes. just chuck up in drill press and go to town.

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 9:56 am 
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The very best roll crimper that I know of is from Lyman and they made two versions, one for slugs with a dome cavity in the middle and another for shot with flat in the middle!
Search E Bay and you'll find some. They are great!
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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 10:22 am 
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Great information, thanks one and all. One of our members has sent me a 16 gauge roll crimper and it should be at the post office today. Can hardly wait to use it.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Sat Feb 05, 2011 1:08 pm 
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The reason I roll crimp is mostly is for slugs. but I plan on doing this for 00 buck and then for #4 and #8 shot. This is for more power to the load. If you look at shotshells from the past, the had an overshot card instead of the crimp.

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Sun Feb 06, 2011 11:06 am 
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I received the roll crimping tool and was surprised to see a hand operated device that has no manufacturers marks. The tool operated stiffly and now runs smooth after lubrication. Anyone use a hand roll crimping tool and if so, do you have and tips to share?


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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Mon Feb 07, 2011 2:33 pm 
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I use a hand cranked roll crimp tool (also with no markings but manufactured by the Bridgeport Gun Implement Co. of Bridgeport Conn.).

Really only a couple of tips as the process is pretty straight forward.

1) Mount the tool securely to a vertical surface so that the crank is on top. This will avoid some nasty spills if the overshot card comes loose before you get the crimp started.

2) Load your shells so that the top of the wad/shot/overshot card column is 3/16th to a 1/4 inch below the case mouth to allow enough case to roll over and seal the overshot card securely in place.

3) Lube the case mouth with a small amount of semi-solid lube such as Vaseline, paraffin or a drop of STP engine treatment. Make sure that the case mouth is inside the cup of the crimper head, apply firm upward pressure on the case with the bottom handle while turning the top handle.

4) Enjoy you classic roll crimped shells.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Sun Feb 13, 2011 3:35 pm 
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Here's some nice pics with the GAEP crimpers at the job 8)

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:04 pm 
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Price for a std steel roll crimper is €55 and in brass €30

The steel crimper is guaranteed for 2 mill crimps, the bras version is less but I’m not sure how many

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 4:26 pm 
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Anyone know if these are sold in the US?


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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Mon Feb 14, 2011 5:29 pm 
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Mikey,

These days it isn't a matter of whether they are sold in America, it's do they take plastic or PayPal? They take PayPal, I order the N2 12 gauge roll crimp. It came today. It is very well made, I would say it was handmade by a skilled machinist. I should know, I make many pieces of equipment for my shop in my shop. At first glance it looks like it will do a nice radius on the edge of the hull. I am going to try it with my cordless drill and then in my drill press. I will be using the BPI Hull Vise. Of course I will be taking pictures of this marvel in action.

It took 12 days to get here, but it was worth the wait, then again I wait months for other stuff that I have ordered.

If nothing needs to get done fast in my shop this week, I will chuck this roll crimper up and try it out. If not then next weekend I will try it out. Too many toys, not enough time.

If you need to know more about the product, just email Charles at gaep61@gmail.com.

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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 1:36 am 
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I'm new to the forum and have loaded 12 ga on a MEC 9000 but want to load slugs and roll crimp. I did send an email to GAEP and my question is how the machined roll crimp tool is held in a drill press. It doesn't look like they have any stem to put into the chuck. Seems like a stupid question, I know. Also, for a smooth bore there don't appear to be a lot of choices for ordering slugs, wads, etc. Any suggestions for the newbie? Thanks in advance.


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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 2:45 am 
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Will this be any good to you ,They are in Italy.
http://www.siarm.com/index.php?currency ... 60&sort=2a


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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 3:54 am 
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i can say siarm is a great company, i`ve ordered a few things, different products at different times.

i`ve had no problems. i`d like to spend my money in the uk, but, it`d cost twice as much, delivery would be up to 3-4 times as much (ironicly, cost more to get from down the road) than it is from italy to england.

i`ve helped a few guy so start reloading, and its the first place to look into, check out the mec they sell, 600jr
siarm -163 euros -£142
midway uk -£257 more than 100 more expensive. that could easily be the first 500shells off the press !


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 Post subject: Re: Roll crimp tool recommend
PostPosted: Tue Mar 01, 2011 4:47 pm 
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Here's the best roll crimper from Lyman.
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