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 Post subject: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 12:57 pm 
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Hey folks, I guess we are all in the same boat here. Components are hard to find, but I still want to shoot. Even if its less, I want to be able to practice.
I typically use AA & FGM hulls, win 209, red dot & claybuster or Win wads. I cut back from 1.125oz to 1 oz target loads. I can't find Win 209s, so I bought some Cheddites the other day. I have never reloaded with them, they are cheaper and what was available. What is the cheapest load you guys use to save money and components?




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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:07 pm 
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Well I see you have RedDot and you cut back from 1 1/8 oz., so I am going to assume 12 gauge.
Load 7/8 oz.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:11 pm 
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Cheapest 12 gauge for me -

Promo or Titewad powder,

Claybuster or Downrange wads,

Fiocchi primers (I've tried Nobel Sports and Rios primers. I dislike Nobel Sports and will not use them. Rio are reportedly "hot" and appear so to me, so I avoid them. I've never used Cheddites and doubt I will.)

Cheapest shot I can find, homemade if available. Reclaimed has never been available to me, but I doubt I would use it even if available. I use 1 ounce for trap and sporting. Unless every target counts, for 12 gauge skeet I would load 7/8 or 3/4 ounce shot.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:53 pm 
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I load 3/4oz for 12 and 20; you get 533 loads from a bag of shot versus 400 for 1oz loads; go tighter one .005 constriction and you're GTG!

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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 1:58 pm 
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I agree that dropping down to a 3/4 ounce load for fun shooting and practice will save the most. You have Red Dot, so use that until you run out and then, if you can find it, buy 8# of Nitro 100, e3, or Extra-Lite powder - which ever is lowest cost. Fiocci 616 primers if available and Clay Buster wads for your hulls. -Ed


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 2:44 pm 
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There are no RedDot 3/4 oz. loads listed for either of the hulls the OP has, that is the reason I only suggested 7/8 oz. Now IF he can find some Extra-Lite or similar powder 3/4 oz. is the way to go since getting wads is easy.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:04 pm 
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AA hull-Claybuster 3/4 oz wad-Ched or Winny 209-16 grains of RD


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:07 pm 
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YevetS wrote:
There are no RedDot 3/4 oz. loads listed for either of the hulls the OP has, that is the reason I only suggested 7/8 oz. Now IF he can find some Extra-Lite or similar powder 3/4 oz. is the way to go since getting wads is easy.

Steve

3/4oz and a Cheerio :mrgreen: Would most likely need to go up a grain using red Dot from the 7/8oz formula

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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 3:23 pm 
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I don't.

I have been using the same basic load for 20+ years and a few pennies one way or another isn't going to change what I am used to and what I like to shoot. At times I have gone to 19.5 grains.

Not sure what it really costs at 2021 prices, I just like the load. Last time I checked it was $5.25 a box

Federal Gold Medal, Top Gun, RIO or Cheddite hull,
Federal 209A or Winchester 209
18.5 grains 700-X
CB6100-12
1 oz. Lawrence or West Coast magnum lead

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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 4:37 pm 
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oneounceload wrote:
YevetS wrote:
There are no RedDot 3/4 oz. loads listed for either of the hulls the OP has, that is the reason I only suggested 7/8 oz. Now IF he can find some Extra-Lite or similar powder 3/4 oz. is the way to go since getting wads is easy.

Steve

3/4oz and a Cheerio :mrgreen: Would most likely need to go up a grain using red Dot from the 7/8oz formula


Well I have very few "rules", but one of them is I dont post anything here that isnt listed in some ones reloading manual. Lets not get into a long discussion about safe/not safe, I dont care, I dont do it.

Now as far as going up a grain in powder to drop down to a 3/4 oz. load is concerned,( I used $42.00/bag for lead and $150.00 for 8 pounds of powder) you save 1 cent/shell. You save .013125 cents on lead but spend .002678 cents on powder. :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:38 pm 
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Look on the Claybuster web site they have data for 3/4 oz. loads


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:43 pm 
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Paid 57.00 for shot and 200 for 8 lbs this week.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 5:52 pm 
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Hodgdon has easily accessible public load data for 12 gauge using REM STS or Gun Club hulls, 700x, Clays or Tightwad with 3/4oz of shot and Ched primers. Provided you can find the proper wads (CB 0175-12) at a decent price, these would be some of the most economically feasible loads to press out. If you’re truly trying to pinch pennies, 700x would probably go the furthest.

Load data here:
https://www.hodgdonreloading.com/data/shotgun


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 6:42 pm 
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dannyd93140 wrote:
Look on the Claybuster web site they have data for 3/4 oz. loads


PoorRichRichard wrote:
Hodgdon has easily accessible public load data for 12 gauge using REM STS or Gun Club hulls, 700x, Clays or Tightwad with 3/4oz of shot


I never said 3/4 oz. loads were not out there, they are not out there for the powder the OP has right now.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 7:08 pm 
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Paid $96.00 including tax for two bags of eagle 7.5 and $200.00 including tax for 8lbs of clays.
Shot seems to be getting hard to find now. I got lucky with powder found it in a small shop in Vermont.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 8:43 pm 
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From my bag of 3/4 oz Claybuster wads.

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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 10:03 pm 
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200$ sounds like the ''new normal'' for a jug of shot shell powder.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sat Feb 06, 2021 11:19 pm 
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57.00 of my order was hazmat and shipping: powder was 142.00. Like I told the nice lady on the phone this a hobby and when it gets to much I will move on.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:49 am 
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I make my own shot. My shotmaker has paid for itself many times over. My lead is free.


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 Post subject: Re: Cheapest to reload?
PostPosted: Sun Feb 07, 2021 8:17 am 
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YevetS wrote:
oneounceload wrote:
YevetS wrote:
There are no RedDot 3/4 oz. loads listed for either of the hulls the OP has, that is the reason I only suggested 7/8 oz. Now IF he can find some Extra-Lite or similar powder 3/4 oz. is the way to go since getting wads is easy.

Steve

3/4oz and a Cheerio :mrgreen: Would most likely need to go up a grain using red Dot from the 7/8oz formula


Well I have very few "rules", but one of them is I dont post anything here that isnt listed in some ones reloading manual. Lets not get into a long discussion about safe/not safe, I dont care, I dont do it.

Now as far as going up a grain in powder to drop down to a 3/4 oz. load is concerned,( I used $42.00/bag for lead and $150.00 for 8 pounds of powder) you save 1 cent/shell. You save .013125 cents on lead but spend .002678 cents on powder. :mrgreen:

Steve



Steve, you forgot to factor in the cost of cheerio :!: :!: :!: :lol: :lol: :lol:



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