ShotGunWorld Shotguns

It is currently Sun Apr 11, 2021 6:52 pm

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Image



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 
Author Message
 Post subject: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:11 pm 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:04 pm
Posts: 2875
When did this happen? The traditional Remington primer, all brass color, are not used in the Gun Clubs. They have a brass center with a silver outer ring. This might be confusing when selling these hulls. All the STS and Nitros still have the all brass colored.
Also I collected some Winchester grey hulls. Instead of the traditional Win primer,( deep copper colored center and silver outer ring) these had silver center with a copper outer ring.
Is this anything new or is it old news?




Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:47 pm 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:22 am
Posts: 9256
Location: Rochester, NY
Old news.

Win started using silver/brass primers in some factory loads a couple years ago (same as the reloading primer), although silver center copper rim would be a new one on me.

Rem has always used a different primer in the GC 20 than the GC 12, and has used a different primer in the GC 12 than the STS 12 in the past.

Federal has a bunch of different primers they use.

Esp with the current situation, factories are stuffing in anything they can.

_________________
S3 Smingler Shotgun Sports
Ian Smingler
[email protected]
http://www.sminglershotgunsports.com

Manufacturer of Custom Brass Barrel Weights for over/under, top single, and unsingle shotguns.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 8:57 pm 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Mar 05, 2009 10:56 pm
Posts: 7902
Location: Central ND
I think you will find that, just like powders, wads and shot, there are many different primers available to the factories that we, as reloaders, do not have access to.

Nothing new, just the way it is.

_________________
Mark

aka Mr. Tactful. Common sense no longer appears to be common.
NSCA#544066


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:07 pm 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:04 pm
Posts: 2875
While discussing Gun Clubs 20ga. I bought a flat of them so I know they are new. the once fired look dirty and if I did not know better I would swear they were reloads . Has this always been the case? i just recently been shooting 20ga.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:23 pm 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Sun Feb 18, 2007 11:22 am
Posts: 9256
Location: Rochester, NY
Pretty much. Whatever primers they use in the GC 20s pierce with frequency as well (one flat one GC 20s cooked a brand new set of firing pins on my Kolar), I suspect Remington is/was putting foreign primers in them. I wonder what Vista Remington will use.

_________________
S3 Smingler Shotgun Sports
Ian Smingler
[email protected]
http://www.sminglershotgunsports.com

Manufacturer of Custom Brass Barrel Weights for over/under, top single, and unsingle shotguns.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 08, 2021 9:45 pm 
Limited Edition

Joined: Fri Oct 10, 2014 4:23 pm
Posts: 366
I had the same issue with pierced primers shooting 20 ga Gun Clubs. Fortunately I had not purchased a full flat (only six boxes or so), and then just a handful of shells per box had pierced primers. I had an annual done on my K80 a few months later by Krieghoff at the World - no comments were noted regarding the condition of my firing pins. However, I'm staying away from Gun Clubs. Happy to pick them up off the ground though.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 2:10 am 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:04 pm
Posts: 2875
Do the 20 ga Gun Clubs reload as good as the 12 ga Gun Clubs ?


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 6:33 am 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:22 am
Posts: 116
In my experience, the 20 ga Gun Club hulls do reload as well as the 12 ga ones. -Ed


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Tue Mar 09, 2021 4:23 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Sun Dec 13, 2009 11:04 pm
Posts: 258
Location: Denver, CO
Hey Wayne-How are you liking that new 20 GA?
Tom


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:07 am 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*

Joined: Sat Oct 13, 2012 8:04 pm
Posts: 2875
Hey Tom, The new gun doesn't hit everything I point it at but sadly I think it is my fault.I am slowly making friends with it.
You know the cliche "the guns breaks the clays fine when I do my part"
I want a gun that breaks clays even when I don't do my part :lol:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Different factory primers?
PostPosted: Wed Mar 10, 2021 11:17 am 
Field Grade

Joined: Thu Feb 21, 2019 2:06 pm
Posts: 21
wrfish wrote:
Hey Tom, The new gun doesn't hit everything I point it at but sadly I think it is my fault.I am slowly making friends with it.
You know the cliche "the guns breaks the clays fine when I do my part"
I want a gun that breaks clays even when I don't do my part :lol:


When you find that gun let me know. I want one too!




Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 11 posts ] 

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Registered users: 1 Cor 2:9, 54bullwinkle, 58PERAZZI, AHI, Barmaleykin, Bing [Bot], Bob_K, bowlbouondgman, Bsswampranch, CaseyB02.21.15, Cfelix10, Curly N, dannyd93140, DaveInFloweryBranchGA, Der Verge, dirty girdy, dmartinb, dpalmer1969, Drew Hause, dtingey, dubob, ebcjr, Ezra Smack, Fasttalker27, fiver, Flashooter, Flyingtargets!, Frog111, FTRPILOT, fungunner, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, gordmanca905, Graydog1, gthudspeth, gunsrfun1, Hollywood22, JayMc, John Henry, JoM, kjs, kolar55, komatsu, Lam101, Malcolm7, mb94, mikeydio, Mule Driver, nickelsmith, Nsiro, oldshotty, oneounceload, pitandremington, rickeroo, Riflemeister, sclagg, sigma_pete, Specklebelly, TDKK, thehoner, Upland Quest, Wchadw, Westender, Wheelspin, whit24, woodsltc, YevetS, Zman48, zxcvbnm


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group    - DMCA Notice