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 Post subject: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 6:45 pm 
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I'm interested in the mossberg 500 410 for a general woods gun for squirrels and the occasional rabbit. It comes with a fixed full choke. I was just wondering for those of you that have one if it patterns well and just your general opinion.

I'm a big fan of the 20 gauge but am just in the mood to try something different. I would really like a wingmaster but the ones made today come with a fixed modified choke and I'm worried it's not enough choke to reach to the top of the giant oaks and hickories thus the reason I'm considering the mossberg with the full choke.

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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 24, 2016 11:55 pm 
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I would opt for the Wingmaster. I have an older one with an IC choked barrel and it works nicely out to 30 yards. I believe that the Wingmasters modified choke will pattern tighter than you think.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 12:44 am 
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I have a Mossy .410 bore Model 500e and enjoy it occasionally for "what it is." That's not a knock on .410s, because lots of people enjoy them. I do, too, sometimes. For your application, I wouldn't use it.

I also have a Wingmaster in 28 gauge, and it's one of my favorites. It's much more of an "all around" shotgun than the Mossy 500e. I just checked the Remington specs table, and although it indicates this for the 28 gauge Wingmaster - "Vent Rib Fixed Rem Choke" - I'm not sure what that means. Mine (a 1990 model to which I added a current production Rem Choke barrel - it originally was fixed full - they started using Rem Choke barrels a little later in 28 gauge) and all I have ever seen have regular Rem Choke barrels with the full array of tubes available. I think that must be just a typo or something.

It definitely gets you "something different" than the 20 gauge, but still has similar performance when using 2 3/4 inch shells. Available loads range from the standard 3/4 oz (and lighter) to 1 1/6 oz. Lots of people today use loads around an ounce in 28 gauge, self included, and I don't find recoil bothersome with those loads.

I think that would be a more satisfying shotgun for your application. And it's definitely a nice-looking piece.

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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Fri Nov 25, 2016 7:49 am 
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You really need a gun with screw in chokes. There are some 410's with them but most 28ga guns have them. That said the CZ 410 SxS come with IC & Mod choke and is perfect a 410 (with fixed chokes) as you will find. For 15 thur 35 yards its all you need with 3" #5 shot ammo for your rabbit & squirrel hunting.

Twenty eight gauge ammo is cheaper and the 28 patterns much better than a 410. If you settle on a single barrel fixed choke gun MOD is the choke you need and nothing more. Two barrels are better than one. With two chokes you cover twice the range say one for closer moving targets and one for longer or sitting targets.

With either look for a used re-loader and reload. I load with premium components which costs $4.17 per box 410 & $4.24 per box for the 28 gauge.

( as to the Wing master, it either means a fixed vent rib or the option of a fixed choke or a rem choke )

As a kid I had a 410 bolt full choke, pretty much useless for my rabbit & squirrel hunting. In my late 40's I bought the perfect gun for that purpose a CZ Ring neck 410 for $700 new. Since than I also bought a SP1-410/26" with screw in chokes.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 10:57 am 
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Thanks for the replies. I think maybe I'm asking too much of the 410 and should go with the 28 gauge. I have always liked the 870 wingmaster but have never owned or shot one. I've shouldered the 410 wingmaster in the local gun shop and the fit was right. I figure the 28 gauge would feel about the same. Maybe I should just be satisfied and keep hunting with my 20 gauges. I have always admired a man than can hunt with one shotgun but curiosity gets the best of me.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 11:57 am 
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jshperdue wrote:
Thanks for the replies. I think maybe I'm asking too much of the 410 and should go with the 28 gauge. I have always liked the 870 wingmaster but have never owned or shot one. I've shouldered the 410 wingmaster in the local gun shop and the fit was right. I figure the 28 gauge would feel about the same. Maybe I should just be satisfied and keep hunting with my 20 gauges. I have always admired a man than can hunt with one shotgun but curiosity gets the best of me.

Yep, the 28 gauge Wingmaster will handle and feel almost exactly like the .410 bore Wingmaster, but the performance difference is very rewarding. Nothing at all wrong with the 20 gauges, but it's surely fun to expand the experience base a little. Good luck!

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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Sat Nov 26, 2016 8:41 pm 
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I have shot .410's for years. 1100, 870, an old Stevens pump, H&R single shot and an antique single shot. They were all choked full and I killed hundreds of rabbits, squirrels, and pigeons. I have also killed a good number of pheasants while rabbit hunting when I was younger. I like .410's and I like them choked full with a 3" chamber.

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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 4:29 pm 
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I use a Mossberg pump .410 with full choke for squirrel some times.
It works fine with # 5 or 6 shot within a limited range of around 25 yards.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 5:44 pm 
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Wildwood wrote:
I use a Mossberg pump .410 with full choke for squirrel some times.
It works fine with # 5 or 6 shot within a limited range of around 25 yards.


I'm wanting a little more than 25 yards out of the gun or I could just become a better hunter a get closer? :D

Right now I'm using a 20 gauge with a trulock extended full choke with #4 shot. I can knock them out of some pretty tall trees. If there closer than 25 yards I try to just hit them with the edge of the pattern. The 410 and 28g just interest me and I see one or the other in my future.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 28, 2016 7:38 pm 
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I have been hunting with a Mossy 410 exclusively this hunting season. The full choke is working pretty well. I was thinking of having it threaded for tubes but have decided not to. So far this season I am at 25 doves, 18 quail, 7 squirrels, and 1 crow. I have only shot about 4 boxes of shells and most of that was at doves. My gun patterns the 3" 7.5 shot well out to about 33 yards. #6 shot patterns well to about 29 yards.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 29, 2016 11:40 pm 
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snakeman32 wrote:
I have been hunting with a Mossy 410 exclusively this hunting season. The full choke is working pretty well. I was thinking of having it threaded for tubes but have decided not to. So far this season I am at 25 doves, 18 quail, 7 squirrels, and 1 crow. I have only shot about 4 boxes of shells and most of that was at doves. My gun patterns the 3" 7.5 shot well out to about 33 yards. #6 shot patterns well to about 29 yards.


Snakeman32


Thanks for the helpful information.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 7:06 am 
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It's an inexpensive .410 pump gun. Not much for looks. But it works well!

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 Post subject: I broke one
PostPosted: Wed Nov 30, 2016 5:23 pm 
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Jshperdue,
I have one. I am actually working on my second. The first the roll pins that keep the slide bars to the foreend. I don't know how many rounds I had put through the gun when it broke but a lot, thousands, would be close. I have not taken it to a patterning board but it bust clays with a solid hit out to about 35 yards or so. I bought mine through Davidson's so I have a lifetime replacement warranty on it. Hope my little bit helps. Tony

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 Post subject: Re: I broke one
PostPosted: Sat Dec 03, 2016 9:23 pm 
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thouk wrote:
Jshperdue,
I have one. I am actually working on my second. The first the roll pins that keep the slide bars to the foreend. I don't know how many rounds I had put through the gun when it broke but a lot, thousands, would be close. I have not taken it to a patterning board but it bust clays with a solid hit out to about 35 yards or so. I bought mine through Davidson's so I have a lifetime replacement warranty on it. Hope my little bit helps. Tony


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Wed Dec 07, 2016 4:57 pm 
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jshperdue wrote:
...The 410 and 28g just interest me and I see one or the other in my future.

Sounds like a solution looking for a problem. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 9:24 pm 
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I had tubes installed in my 500 .410. I use it for hunting with either a full or modified tube and for skeet with a skeet choke. I usually hit 18-19 at skeet with it. It is a nice light squirrel gun too.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 17, 2016 10:04 pm 
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jshperdue wrote:
I was just wondering for those of you that have one if it patterns well and just your general opinion.


No .410 bore patterns well and never has, with lead shot.

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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Sun Dec 18, 2016 8:51 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
jshperdue wrote:
I was just wondering for those of you that have one if it patterns well and just your general opinion.


No .410 bore patterns well and never has, with lead shot.



Thanks Randy. I bought an sx3 20 gauge with a nice set of trulock chokes based on a review you posted and its been a good gun. As a previous poster above mentioned I think I'm just looking for a problem instead of being satisfied with my 20g. I really have no other reason besides the curiosity of trying something new or different. I have decided to continue shooting the 20g and 12g.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 7:19 pm 
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I had tubes installed in my Mossy. One of our sponsors here did the work and I'm very happy with it, I shoot skeet with it as well as hunt with it. It actually goes out into the field more than my ou 20 ga. 2 1/2 inch WAA shells for skeet and any old 3 inch for hunting. Haven't tried it for deer yet, but if I do, I'll probably use the skeet choke for slugs.


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 Post subject: Re: Mossberg 500 410 opinions?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 20, 2017 10:03 pm 
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RandyWakeman wrote:
jshperdue wrote:
I was just wondering for those of you that have one if it patterns well and just your general opinion.


No .410 bore patterns well and never has, with lead shot.


Mine does. :D




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