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 Post subject: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 8:02 pm 
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I know the l4s is 4 rounds
are they the same gas system?
what other differences are there?




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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2017 10:09 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 8:56 am 
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I've been wondering the differences too. With the exception of the additional red colored retaining nut and the permanently affixed forearm nut on the L4S, they look exactly the same.


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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 9:44 am 
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Well Randy it looks like you have handled both. out of the box how do they handle? is either one muzzle heavy? is the trigger on one better than the other? the l4s barrel nut is to prevent movement, is there movement in the xlr5? I would say the action/bolt is the same. i am looking between the l4s and the xlr5 velocity FR compact both in 28inch barrels. so the ribs and chokes are the same. the main differences look to be the trigger and longer forearm on the xlr5 which may make it feel more barrel heavy. actual gun weight the xlr5 is 3 oz more.


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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 1:47 pm 
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Well Randy it looks like you have handled both. out of the box how do they handle? is either one muzzle heavy? is the trigger on one better than the other? the l4s barrel nut is to prevent movement, is there movement in the xlr5? I would say the action/bolt is the same. i am looking between the l4s and the xlr5 velocity FR compact both in 28inch barrels. so the ribs and chokes are the same. the main differences look to be the trigger and longer forearm on the xlr5 which may make it feel more barrel heavy. actual gun weight the xlr5 is 3 oz more.


Up to recently, the Fabarm USA autos have been 2-3/4 inch dedicated clays guns with target triggers: XLR5 Adjustable, Long Rib, and Flat Rib.

That changed with the 3 inch chambered L4S that weighs 6-3/4 lbs. After that came the XLR5 Waterfowler which is a bit heavier, a bit due to the action and longer mag tube, a bit due to the Long Rib.

I am particularly impressed with the L4S design, as the forearm is not stressed (you can fire the gun with the forearm removed, though I don't suggest it). The 3 inch hunting guns do have a bit heavier triggers than their competition clays guns.

The L4S Sporting is out now as well: I should see it this weekend (also a target gun, target trigger, 2-3/4 inch chamber.

If it is a hunting gun that you are after, it is either the 3 inch L4S or the XLR5 Waterfowler. The rest are all dedicated clays guns.

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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 5:25 pm 
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I want it for a clay gun. limited trap, mostly sporting clays. I am leaning to the xlr5 compact


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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 6:11 am 
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Is one more reliable long term than the other? A typical clays gun can see 10,000 rounds a year.


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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2017 7:26 am 
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Is one more reliable long term than the other? A typical clays gun can see 10,000 rounds a year.


That isn't really answerable today. It is essentially the same question that you asked a year ago. viewtopic.php?t=441855

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I own and shoot 2 XLR5's. My AR is from the original shipment of guns to the US. About a year later I sold my Berettas and bought an LR as a back up gun. I have been shooting the LR lately and liking it a bunch.

I have found that, if properly maintained, the Fabarm is THE most reliable semi in my experience, and I've owned 1100's, Browning Gold's, B 391's, a 390 and a 303, Winchester Super X1 and 2.

The XLR5 is soft shooting and seem to like very light loads.

Fabarm/Guerini service is second to none, and the folks there are accessible and accommodating.

I doubt very much if, unless the song of the O/U seduces me, I will ever compete with another semi auto.

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The L4S Sporting's inaugural shipment just happened. I've only had one in my hands since Saturday. It is premature to speculate to any level.

At the same time, the L4S Hunter series has been out for two years and has seen some heavy use at clays. Just ask Jim at Cole Gunsmithing what he shoots for essentially everything. As far as Fabarm is concerned, put 100,000 rounds a year through one for five years if you wish. If you can manage to legitimately break something, they'll be delighted to fix it.

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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2017 5:19 pm 
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ok so would you say the xlr5 fr shoots flat or 60/40 like the l4s sporting. is the recoil comparable between the two? and how would this compare recoil wise to a Remington 1100 classic trap?


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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
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Unless you are extremely recoil-sensitive, there is no issue worth obsessing over.

I've not shot an Remington 1100 Trap on the same day as an XLR5 FR or the L4S Sporting, but the 1100 Trap would likely be the softest-shooting-- it is an 8-1/4 - 8-1/2 gas gun, a pound or so heavier. It is also fairly slow and ponderous compared to the FR or L4S models, but it is a trap gun, not a sporting clays model, after all.

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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:49 am 
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is the xlr5 fr pretty much 60/40 poi? thanks for the first hand knowledge on these guns. you just don't get a chance to see them here in my local circle.


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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 12:22 pm 
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is the xlr5 fr pretty much 60/40 poi? thanks for the first hand knowledge on these guns. you just don't get a chance to see them here in my local circle.


Nominally, essentially all Fabarm autos print three inches high @ 40 yards.

However, the XLR5 has an adjustable rib, so you can move POI where you want it.

Both the Long Rib and the XLR5 adjustable rib have adjustable combs as well.

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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2017 8:31 pm 
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perfect this is info that should be on the fabarm site but is no place to be seen. I think I will be tracking down an XLR5 FR Compact


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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:23 am 
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Does anyone know If the L4s has shims for left hand like Beretta
Very interested in this gun
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 Post subject: Re: Fabarm XLR5 vs L4S
PostPosted: Tue Aug 29, 2017 11:54 am 
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It comes in a left handed version. check their web site




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