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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 8:23 pm 
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A rather...uh...vigorous exchange of opinions here ;)
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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:08 pm 
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Afzaal, you've resurrected a nine year old thread.

I suspect that's the weight of the shot in grams, not the weight of the powder in grains. I'm no reloader but the recipes I've seen use less powder than that.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Wed Apr 12, 2017 9:35 pm 
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CMT is correct
31 grams shot = 1.1 oz.
36 grams shot = 1.27 oz.

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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 9:50 am 
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Depending on what type of gun you are shooting the heavy loads like the 1 1/8oz. can kick like a mule and jar your teeth loose and especially the cheep shells while the light 1 1/8oz. loads would be more enjoyable to shoot.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:35 am 
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danfri81 wrote:
...Also, would one be better for trap/skeet? I'm by no means a pro, I just enjoy going out and having some fun shooting with friends so I don't need any top of the line ammo, but I also don't want to be handicapped using the wrong ammo. Thanks!

To put it simply... 1oz, #7.5 or #8, 1,145-1,200 fps is all you need. No need for anything heavier or faster. Get the cheapest ammo with the above attributes you can find and have fun. I shoot the same 1oz #7.5 1,200 fps for all clay target sports.

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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 7:14 pm 
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Curious. I have a question for myself that might help the OP.
I found Win 12ga "Light Target", 2.75", 1oz, 7-1/2's at 1180fps. $49.99 a flat.
Are these good practice/target loads, and will they cycle thru most SA's?
These look to be something he could use. And myself.
OMG, that is an OLD thread! Wasn't paying attention. Sorry for that.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 10:11 pm 
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Keep in mind the OP asked the question nine years ago, in 2008. Somehow this old thread got bumped.

Yes those are cheap but okay shells in an OU but won't cycle in many semi's. The smoother sided Gun Club 1oz loads at 1185 cycle fine in my AL390, but those Super Target shells are iffy. Just try a box, but bring other ammo in case it doesn't.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
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Afzaal wrote:
A simple question
Regular shot no 6 is 31g load
While Super Shot no 6 is 36g
Now 31 or 36 is gram or grain ?
Is it weight of pellet or powder used in cartridge ?



The grams used in shotgun shell loads refer to the gram weight of the shot.

28 grams is about a 1 ounce load

31 grams would be about a 1 1/8 ounce load

36 grams would be about a 1 1/4 ounce load

More payload of lead shot, and it's going to kick you harder.

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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Thu Apr 13, 2017 11:33 pm 
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DallasCMT wrote:
Keep in mind the OP asked the question nine years ago, in 2008. Somehow this old thread got bumped.

Yes those are cheap but okay shells in an OU but won't cycle in many semi's. The smoother sided Gun Club 1oz loads at 1185 cycle fine in my AL390, but those Super Target shells are iffy. Just try a box, but bring other ammo in case it doesn't.


Ok. Thanks for that. I'll pass. Could you recommend a brand similar that will work in semi's? Much appreciated. Still learning here.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 12:30 am 
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Just about any one ounce load at 1200 fps or faster will cycle in most semi autos. What shotgun do you have? The 1oz @1180 may work in yours, just try a box.

I've had good luck with the yellow and red boxed Estate Super Sports for $5.49 at Academy, the 1oz @1235 load.

The 1-1/8th oz loads at 1145 are not bad either but will have a little more recoil. They are a good reliable middle ground shell that will work in most any semi. Next is the same weight load is 1200 fps, they will certainly work but have a bit more recoil.

The same 1-1/8th oz load at 1250 fps get a little snappy.

In any of these, use #7.5 shot for sporting clays or trap, I usually shoot #8 shot for skeet, or closer clays.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 9:16 am 
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Dallas,
Once again, thank you. My SA is an Mossberg 930 DC. It has worked perfectly for me with no issues to date. Probably about 1500-1600 shells, mostly the Wal-Mart Fed 7.5's, 1-1/8oz, 1200fps. When I went after Chukar, I used Rio Blue Steel #6's , 1-1/8oz, @1400fps. Those have some snap. Just looking for something a bit easier to practice with in the 1oz range. Those Estates look promising. Thanks again.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 1:06 pm 
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There are several in that spec range, Rio makes a blue boxed load that's 1 oz @1210, TLT288 I think... those work okay but some people report jams with the Rios. I've had my share, but maybe only 1-2 in a case of shells, it was an out-of-round issue, not a load issue.

Also, if your gun is very clean and oiled it's more likely to cycle the 1180 fps loads.. also make sure the gas port is good and clear (the small hole or pathway that goes from inside the barrel to the gas system) - the more gas it can pass, the better.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Fri Apr 14, 2017 2:00 pm 
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Agreed, the cleaner the ports, the better. I've cleaned these twice with pipe cleaners and solvent. Piston also. The gas ports were usually pretty clean, but, cleaned 'em anyway. I'm going to try those Estate Super Sport's. Any other info is always appreciated Dallas. I'm all eye's.


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 Post subject: Re: Light Loads vs. Heavy Loads
PostPosted: Sat Apr 15, 2017 12:14 am 
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These gas ports are drilled out, some have suggested finding a drill bit that fits your gas port hole size and turning the bit by hand in the hole. This will scrape out any residual gook that builds up in the hole. Of course don't use a larger bit, and don't chuck it up in a drill and go cowboy on it. Scraping the sides of the gas port hole is the goal.

Here's a recoil calculator that some find handy. Just plug in the shot weight, velocity, and gun weight. It can help you see how various loads kick, in ft/lbs.

http://www.omahamarian.org/trap/shotshellenergy.html




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