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 Post subject: Why The Opposite Opinons Among Experienced Shooters?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 11:46 am 
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One person says a particular gun has too much recoil...another says she never notices the recoil. One says life is too short for ugly guns, the other says looks don't matter. One says don't waste your money on cheap O/U's, the other says they work fine and have no more problems than the more expensive guns. One shoots only autos, another shoots only break open.

Could it be that we have different sensitivities to the same reality? Could we have differing values? Could we have had different experiences? Maybe we are all reasonable people with legitimate different opinions based on our own life experiences. Maybe one person's opinion doesn't have to be wrong for the other's to be right.

I confess to being intolerant on occasion, so I am just as bad as anyone else. Maybe we could all think about the above when we have different views of reality.

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 Post subject: Re: Why The Opposite Opinons Among Experienced Shooters?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:19 pm 
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Opinions are like rear ends, everyone has one..some think theirs is the only ones that matter, others could care less..one thing about it, your personality is something your born with, you cant pick what type you have, just like sense of humor, you might laugh at a blonde joke and someone else may snurl their nose at it.. there are 4 personalities (i think) rated strongest to weakest, the strongest will tell you at the drop of a hat which gun you need and how much you should spend on it, the weakest will listen or read what you have, think about it and never say a thing..one of the personalities has a picture perfect reloading table, the other looks like mine, spilled shot,powder and spent primers everywhere.. :lol: I read a book on this years ago and it has helped me understand better why people do and say things the way they do.. :wink:

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:22 pm 
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WML wrote:
...Could it be that we have different sensitivities to the same reality? Could we have differing values? Could we have had different experiences? Maybe we are all reasonable people with legitimate different opinions based on our own life experiences. Maybe one person's opinion doesn't have to be wrong for the other's to be right....


I think you've nailed it. Then again, I shoot 28s and 16s more often than 20s and 12s, despite the cost factor, so I'm a bit of an oddball. Tolerance, though, is an amazing thing; the world could use more of it, IMO.


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 Post subject: Re: Why The Opposite Opinons Among Experienced Shooters?
PostPosted: Thu Nov 19, 2009 12:35 pm 
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Believe it or not you also have people that are paid to post.

On another fourm one of the mods started holding peoples feet to the fire when they made claims about equipment. In the process of doing so it was discovered there were people from the factories, field reps, any every day joes being paid or paying people to have views that favored thier equipment. They would gang up on the number one and number two companies knowing people bought equipment based on what they read on boards.

There is one gun on the market they people are raving about. It is being trashed on this site big time. It makes you wonder if those people migrated after being banded on the other sites. Who knows.

As stated above there are also people that just feel different about how guns should perform and how they should look. Some people are going to go out of there way to trash talk anything black because they think all guns should have wood stocks and blue barrels. Some people want heavy guns to soak up recoil shooting clay, others lite guns that travel well while they walk 15 miles a day hunting birds. Mostly though, everyone that owns a gun is an expert. :)


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This is why they make so many models. Different people and different situations. What is important is you have the gun that is right for you and your situation.

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The hardest working man I ever knew had a dairy farm, a milk route, and operated a restaraunt with his wife. He got up at three and didn't sleep until ten or eleven every single day for about a half century, and his wife got to sleep in until nearly five, although she had to work from 5:30 a.m. until about 11:00 p.m at that restaraunt. Every day, without fail, year after year.

Of evenings, after he had milked his cows, he would always come to the restaraunt and sit and visit with the customers. Often, as his tired middle aged wife with a still trim figure and perpetual dark circles under her eyes walked by, he'd say;

"It's a lucky thing everybody doesn't like the same thing, or else every man on Earth would be trying to take away my wife."

And she'd always look at him and just beam.


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SuperXOne, that pretty much sums it up.


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 Post subject: Re: Why The Opposite Opinons Among Experienced Shooters?
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Believe it or not, there are some people that do not like desert either.

My opinion about opinions is: I you do not have the will or capacity to take a negative reply, never, I repeat, NEVER ask for an opinion or post on an OPINION forum.

Way to often folks that ask for an opinion or post to an opinion forum take offense or accuse anyone who does not agree with their opinion as being a basher. Not so.

Opinions and rectums, everyone has one!

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MGF wrote:
WML wrote:
...Could it be that we have different sensitivities to the same reality? Could we have differing values? Could we have had different experiences? Maybe we are all reasonable people with legitimate different opinions based on our own life experiences. Maybe one person's opinion doesn't have to be wrong for the other's to be right....


I think you've nailed it. Then again, I shoot 28s and 16s more often than 20s and 12s, despite the cost factor, so I'm a bit of an oddball. Tolerance, though, is an amazing thing; the world could use more of it, IMO.

People like you make me sick! :wink: :lol:

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There's two classifications of people... those who agree with me, and those who are wrong! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:


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There's two classifications of people... those who agree with me, and those who are wrong! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

also, dont take free advise from a poster on a shotgun board that doesnt even own a shotgun :wink: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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As some people say, "different strokes for different folks".

My feelings are, "I may not always be right, but I'm never wrong"...... :wink: :D

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 Post subject: Re: Why The Opposite Opinons Among Experienced Shooters?
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blkcloud,

Just how would you know whether or not someone posting on a board like this has a shotgun or not? Heck, maybe I just make all this stuff up and have never even seen a shotgun? Do you know for sure? :?

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blkcloud1 wrote:
the weakest will listen or read what you have, think about it and never say a thing


And this classifies someone as weak? I don't think so. Maybe a different type personality, but certainly not weak.

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Burnt Powder wrote:
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Just how would you know whether or not someone posting on a board like this has a shotgun or not? Heck, maybe I just make all this stuff up and have never even seen a shotgun? Do you know for sure? :?

BP

he told me he didnt own a shotgun :wink:
I was just poking fun at him..

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2goldens4us wrote:
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the weakest will listen or read what you have, think about it and never say a thing


And this classifies someone as weak? I don't think so. Maybe a different type personality, but certainly not weak.

your right, i mis spoke about how the different personalities were calibrated or grouped..sorry..

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Yeah, I never have understood why someone would ask a question and then get upset when someone else gave them an answer they didn't like.

There is no one gun that is the best. We're all different and what works for me won't work for you. There are generalities and starting points, but then personal refinement has to take over.

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Burnt Powder wrote:
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Just how would you know whether or not someone posting on a board like this has a shotgun or not? Heck, maybe I just make all this stuff up and have never even seen a shotgun? Do you know for sure? :?

BP



BP--

That one was directed at me, and rightfully so. I've often facetiously said that I don't own any shotguns. Blkcloud either played along or genuinely didn't understand the joke...

Either way, I didn't take offense at the remark.


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This forum, or any forum for that matter, would sure be boring if everyone agreed on everything. I enjoy reading everyone's opinions and debates about certain issues.

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