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 Post subject: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 10:25 am 
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Due to an overwhelming amount of spam, from chinese accounts using hotmail.com, I am forced to ban hotmail.com. This will apply to current and future accounts. If you are a current user and can't login please email me at sales@shotgunworld.com. I can then edit your account with a different email. I'm sorry, but we are receiving 300 new posts per day from spammers using the hotmail.com address. Attempts to ban by IP address and DNS blackhole lists has had no affect on the spammers. I hope you understand.
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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 2:07 pm 
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Great job Jay!

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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
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Thank you Jay, I know that it has been a pain in your hind parts. Glad that you found what was going on and put a stop to it.

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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Thu Oct 24, 2013 6:24 pm 
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Thank you Jay.Man that crap gets old.


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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
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Great job. Hotmail and Yahoo both contribute way too much spam. I'd include Yahoo accounts on the ban (wagon).


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RATS !! There goes my Kimono style shooting vest I was about to order !! .. :lol: :lol:

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Just when I was starting to get a handle on the lingo!

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Thank you and congratulations on figuring this out!


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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Fri Oct 25, 2013 6:11 pm 
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Good job and thanks...

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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Sat Oct 26, 2013 6:33 am 
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Well done---Thank you!

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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
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Jay, I understand your motivation to get rid of the spammers, and I want them gone as much as anyone.

But, do you really think this is the answer? Why won't they just go to Yahoo! emails, GMail, etc?

If they do, will you eventually ban all public email domains?

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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:07 am 
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shootingcajun wrote:
Great job. Hotmail and Yahoo both contribute way too much spam. I'd include Yahoo accounts on the ban (wagon).


Please don't Ban Yahoo as well! I've only got Yahoo and Hotmail accounts.


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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
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Someone really needs to work on the spam on the Muller Choke forum!!

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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 9:10 am 
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I applaud the effort. Thank you, Jay!
If Hotmail can't keep a lid on spammers and filter them...then keep a lid on Hotmail.

Sorry Hotmail users, but your provider is sadly lacking.


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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Mon Oct 28, 2013 2:02 pm 
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I can appreciate the frustration. Some days the board is practically unusable, between the spam and all the doubleclick crap. But, I tend to agree that banning domains is probably not an effective strategy.

The accounts the spam is posted under look like the names were randomly generated by a spam bot. (Also, most of the ones I looked at were created as much as 3 weeks ago. I'm sure cleaning them out will be tedious, but probably needs to be done.) I think a more effective strategy is to implement one (or more) of the several solutions available to prevent spam bots from automatically creating accounts on the board. If they can't create accounts, they can't spam the board.

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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 7:34 pm 
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banning all hotmail accounts hardly seems like a successful solution, as if it's hotmail that is the problem, and not the person using Hotmail.

this is the same mentality of people that want to ban guns because of gun violence.

I use Hotmail and have for over a decade. i have bought several guns on this site and other shotgun related items. i have sold guns also. i have many contacts that i have made over the years that reach me through my hotmail account and I will continue to use it. I do not have access to private email account nor do i want one. I would expect a little more forethought from the people responsible for this site but if this is your solution, then i guess I and others will no longer be on here.

what happens tomorrow when a spammer uses yahoo , then gmail, then the next email service, possibly the email service of some of those who have already posted in support of this solution.


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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Tue Oct 29, 2013 8:15 pm 
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One solution of course is to require each new member to apply then be approved by the mods, which some boards do. That's very tedious for the mods.

Some boards make you give a drivers license number or credit card number if you use a Hotmail type account. Nothing is charged, it just verifies that it's a real person not a spambot. If you use a personal or corporate email account that doesn't apply. Usually just Gmail and Hotmail accounts. My mom still has an AOL account. Remember those.

I'd like to think the NSA or the FBI would focus on foreign threats and also look into spammers and other serious internet scams, instead of listening in on "domestic terrorists" like "evangelical Christians" and "people with assault rifles" and Tea Party members and such.

Personally I'd like to catch one of those Chinese spammers some day and take a baseball bat to their legs.


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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Wed Oct 30, 2013 8:10 pm 
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VTHokiesDuckHunter wrote:
Personally I'd like to catch one of those Chinese spammers some day and take a baseball bat to their legs.
Now that's a task force I'd like to be part of!

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 Post subject: Re: Hotmail.com accounts banned
PostPosted: Fri Nov 01, 2013 12:01 pm 
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I had to wait for approval of my first post, that didn't seem to stop them. Maybe they are using real people to find a board and create accounts that they turn over to a bot, or sell to another spammer.



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