ShotGunWorld Shotguns

It is currently Fri Jan 22, 2021 5:32 am

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Image



Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 219 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11  Next
Author Message
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 6:06 am 
Crown Grade

Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:27 am
Posts: 3096
Location: North Central West Virginia
Whatever happened to Barricade? You recommended it highly to me before you ever started this test. Now it seems like it's way down the list!




Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Thu May 29, 2014 10:00 pm 
Tournament Grade
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:43 am
Posts: 232
That was before I did the evaluation. It was one of my former go-to products.

_________________
Love your guns, spend time with them.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 8:02 am 
Crown Grade

Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:27 am
Posts: 3096
Location: North Central West Virginia
Ok, I found the WD-40 spam at Walmart this morning. diyguy, you are costing me a lot of money switching these anti-corrosion products, and me knowing they are not going to have a measurable difference on corrosion on my guns! There isn't any. :D :roll:


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 10:29 am 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Thu Aug 08, 2013 4:35 pm
Posts: 180
Location: Austin, Texas
Thanks for your evaluations and tenacity. While not perfect as long term testing of all parameters, this is the best unbiased evaluation of so many products that we might use in gun care that I remember seeing.
Several to many of the products you have evaluated I've used for years and a few for just the last few years. I think some of those I can stop using now :) and at least one product that I will purchase today. :roll:
I wonder how the Frog Lube will work on my reels.
Thanks again for a great addition to the stickies and your evaluation.

Hope you don't mind. I posted a link to this on Rimfire Central. This is great info.


Last edited by fwood on Mon Jun 02, 2014 6:25 am, edited 1 time in total.

Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 01, 2014 9:36 pm 
Tournament Grade
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:43 am
Posts: 232
Halwg wrote:
Ok, I found the WD-40 spam at Walmart this morning. diyguy, you are costing me a lot of money switching these anti-corrosion products, and me knowing they are not going to have a measurable difference on corrosion on my guns! There isn't any. :D :roll:


Gald I could help......... Or not. :wink:

_________________
Love your guns, spend time with them.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 8:57 am 
Utility Grade

Joined: Fri Jun 06, 2014 9:26 pm
Posts: 6
This test is awesome.

you see so many products on the shelf and wonder about things like these.
this will be a great reference.

_________________
Texas-CB
Canvasback 12Ga


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 08, 2014 5:28 pm 
Tournament Grade
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:43 am
Posts: 232
Here is an update on the corrosion boards after 43 and 42 days outside.

Image

The last three samples on board #1 are about to give up.

Image

Board #2 samples are all finished. Every sample is showing corrosion.

Image

The indoor samples (after 41 days) are showing more failures. (Only in the thumb print area)

Rust prevent, WD 40 regular), Militech1, Strike hold, Archoil, 3 In One iol, Kroil, Hoppe's MDL. Mil Poro 7 have now failed along with the others that had failed earlier.

_________________
Love your guns, spend time with them.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 09, 2014 9:23 am 
*Proud to be a*
*Proud to be a*
User avatar

Joined: Thu Nov 17, 2011 1:21 pm
Posts: 2977
Location: Austin, Texas
that WD40 spam is looking good. I will have to find some of that elusive stuff.
I never even heard of it before your testing :)
Thanks again Diyguy

_________________
I've found that shooting and thinking don't seem to mix. So I've stopped thinking. -Happman


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:56 pm 
Tournament Grade
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:43 am
Posts: 232
As mentioned earlier I put together a device to capture the dynamic coefficient of friction for all the products I have previously evaluated (including a static friction evaluation)

Ive tabulated the results and they are similar to those of the static coefficient of friction evaluation.

Here is a video showing how the evaluation was conducted and how excess lube actually worsens or confounds our attempts to make metal slide easier against one another. The video will show that only in the absolute minimalist state do the gun lubes actually reduce the friction/drag forces.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J5LeeIfvLm0

All the products were run through the friction device and the chart below shows how each product performed in comparison to one another as well as dry steel (no lube at all)

Image

_________________
Love your guns, spend time with them.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 2:50 am 
Presentation Grade

Joined: Sat Dec 26, 2009 1:24 pm
Posts: 687
Location: Central Indiana
One Shot and Frog Lube appear to be clear winners. Thank you for all of your effort with this project. {hs# HHD


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Wed Jun 11, 2014 6:36 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:54 pm
Posts: 257
Location: Alabama USA
I looked and can get the Frog Lube, One Shot and Wd-40 spam locally. With the One Shot looking so good in lubricity, it sure seems like a great product for gun care.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Fri Jun 13, 2014 11:55 pm 
Limited Edition
User avatar

Joined: Sat Nov 26, 2011 11:49 am
Posts: 457
Filnez wrote:
I looked and can get the Frog Lube, One Shot and Wd-40 spam locally. With the One Shot looking so good in lubricity, it sure seems like a great product for gun care.


I've been a diehard Break free CLP user for approximately 25 years. I have never had a problem with any of my firearms using this product. Up until I read this post and the torture test the OP put the selected 46 products through, I purchased my first can of WD 40 spam and One Shot. I love both products. I use the one shot for all the internal parts and use the WD 40 spam to wipe down the outside of my firearms from time to time and love the products. I will always keep a can of Break Free CLP around but I think I have found new products I will switch to for my gun care thanks to the OP and the effort and info he provided.
Happy Shooting,
Pasquale


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Thu Jun 19, 2014 11:44 am 
Utility Grade

Joined: Thu Aug 01, 2013 9:48 am
Posts: 1
I salute your herculean effort in practically evaluating this wide array of products and I thank you for your valued service to the firearms community.

:B3

~ Doc


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 22, 2014 10:56 am 
Presentation Grade
User avatar

Joined: Fri Feb 23, 2007 9:38 pm
Posts: 652
Location: South Florida
It's nice to see a good evaluation like this, fan boy product reviews get old. I haven't seen frog lube locally, but WD-40 spam and One Shot can easily be had...although I will still use Ed's Red too.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 9:57 am 
Presentation Grade

Joined: Mon Jan 04, 2010 11:26 am
Posts: 908
Location: SE TX
GREAT WORK! Many thanks for your efforts.

What I would like to see is how the products respond to the friction test a week and then a month after application.

If you decide to do this (hope, hope), it would be helpful to post results in a new thread. It probably could be missed in this one since it is getting quite large.

I hope your results become a sticky, pardon the pun.

_________________
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.― Mark Twain


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Wed Jun 25, 2014 10:53 am 
Crown Grade

Joined: Fri Oct 15, 2010 2:24 pm
Posts: 8330
Location: Upstate SC
Awesome work. Very much appreciated.

I'd like to see a cleaned up and edited summary thread made into a sticky.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:37 am 
Crown Grade

Joined: Wed Jan 08, 2014 10:27 am
Posts: 3096
Location: North Central West Virginia
If I can buy One Shot locally I'm going to pick up a can.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jun 29, 2014 8:46 am 
Limited Edition
User avatar

Joined: Sun Nov 24, 2013 7:20 am
Posts: 350
Location: East TN
VTHokiesDuckHunter wrote:
Awesome work. Very much appreciated.

I'd like to see a cleaned up and edited summary thread made into a sticky.

Ditto!

A published stand alone version with all the charted results, so we don't have to wade through the opinion posts and comments. We'd just make our own decisions on which products to buy based on the project's published results if we choose.

_________________
"He who knows nothing is closer to the truth than he whose mind is filled with falsehoods and errors." Thomas Jefferson


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Mon Jun 30, 2014 5:46 pm 
Tournament Grade

Joined: Wed Mar 06, 2013 2:54 pm
Posts: 257
Location: Alabama USA
I did an unintentional test of Eezox today. Had to go to Birmingham AL to carry my wife for a doctor appointment, and while we were down there I had intended to get the scuba tanks filled that I use with a PCP air rifle. I wanted to show the shop my rifle, so I put it into an egg crate foam lined plastic hardcase and put it in the car's trunk along with the two tanks. The shop happened to be closed on Mondays, so no luck there. When we got back home, I took everything out of the trunk and brought it back into the house. When I opened the gun case, there were rust blotches all over the gun's blued steel air reservoir tube and barrel. I learned two things: #1. It is obviously very hot and humid outside. #2. The Eezox didn't do worth a crap as a rust inhibitor. Based upon it's reputation, I have been using Eezox, but I won't be any more. It works well as a bore cleaner to remove powder fouling and other residue, so I'll use what I've already got for that and will be trying something else. Hornady's One Shot tested very well for DIY Guy, and their advertising states that it exceeds Mil-Spec for salt spray corrosion exposure, and it looks to be a good cleaner and lubricant also.

It was very disappointing to open up the gun case and see brown everywhere.


Top
 Profile  
 
 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Jul 06, 2014 9:03 pm 
Tournament Grade
User avatar

Joined: Tue Jan 28, 2014 10:43 am
Posts: 232
After 62 days the outdoor evaluation has concluded. This past June was one of the rainiest on record. I did not post the failure date of the last three products on the date of the failure so I could lump them together. Here are the final products to show corrosion.

Frog Lube after 54 days

Hornady One Shot after 58 days and

WD 40 spam at 62 days.

Image

Image

Image

The indoor evaluation is still on-going.



_________________
Love your guns, spend time with them.


Top
 Profile  
 
Display posts from previous:  Sort by  
Post new topic Reply to topic  [ 219 posts ]  Go to page Previous  1 ... 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, 10, 11  Next

All times are UTC - 6 hours [ DST ]


Who is online

Registered users: BerettaEd, Bing [Bot], Dmc57, Drew Hause, GLangley, Google [Bot], Google Adsense [Bot], Google Feedfetcher, harvard, Majestic-12 [Bot], May, NailNinja, noweil, OneShotRon, pointer56, streamrocks


You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot post attachments in this forum

Jump to:  
Powered by phpBB © 2000, 2002, 2005, 2007 phpBB Group    - DMCA Notice