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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Fri Jan 30, 2015 8:51 pm 
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Stupid question but how does someone "apply" Hornady One Shot. It seems like it would be tough to control if it is a spray and it can't be spread around by a rag, etc....



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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Thu Feb 19, 2015 6:28 pm 
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Thanks for posting all of the great info...maybe the next time you do a test you could include: Qmaxx Q20 Industrial strength, we use it on our Promatic sporting clays machines since we live in the northwest and leave the machines out all year.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sat Feb 21, 2015 1:41 pm 
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Sometimes there is a spray on version and a grease tube version; Triflow with Teflon for instance. I was wondering if you had a preference and if one or the other worked better?

Also we use the Qmaxx Q20 for our Promatic machines and was hoping you might consider that and maybe the Triflow in your next evaluation.

Thanks for all your hard work and for sharing it.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Mon Feb 23, 2015 1:20 am 
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Great info. Definitely changed my mindset on some of the products that didn't fare so well.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Mon Mar 09, 2015 3:45 pm 
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Thank you for your time and sharing your find.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Mon Mar 16, 2015 4:18 pm 
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This is some fantastic information. I'm going to have to re-think the products I use. I've been using some things that didn't do as well as I would have expected. What an eye opener.

A good follow-up to these tests would be to see just how these same products effect gun finishes, wood finishes, and synthetic stocks. The best protectants and lubricants in the world wouldn't do me a bit of good if they eat my stock finish and degrade the bluing on my barrels.

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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Thu Apr 09, 2015 5:14 am 
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Wow great lab work, you really killed the claims of all (but one) of the small bottle potion sellers. Agree with comments, using the right product for each task is the best approach, and your data supports that also. No magic potions needed, just take the time to Clean, lube, and rust prevent when needed. Think you!


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Apr 19, 2015 5:43 am 
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I have studied your tests with interest and really appreciate your taking the time to put it all together.
I have a question regarding how long the lubricating qualities last, particularly of the thin aerosol and spray products.
Currently I use grease on the metal to metal surfaces of my O/U with no noticeable wear. Will the Hornady One Shot and the others continue to lube as well as protect?

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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Tue Apr 21, 2015 8:21 pm 
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I bought a can of one of the top ones in the test - the WD40 product. Still, I don't use it on the guns. Not sure of long term effects on the plastics or rubber seals, or if i accidentally get some on the wood. Sure it'll protect the metal until the end of times, just not sure about the rest of the gun. Anyone else?


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Wed Jul 08, 2015 12:25 pm 
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Thanks to the gentleman who created this thread! If nothing else, it helped me understand why I was seeing mixed results from the EEZOX product I had originally become so fond of, and later found it to not be as reliable in corrosion prevention as I first experienced. Seems like there may be some variables effecting the outcomes not obvious to the casual observer. For instance, why did EEZOX hold up so well with the salt sprayed plates, yet be the first to fail the finger print test, even before the control started showing rust? Makes me think there are unseen effects at the chemical level and/or mechanical variables related to the application cohesion of the EEZOX in these samples. Why would the salt sprayed sample outlast the rainwater sample? Again, was there something going on with the salt water that aided the durability of the EEZOX to adhere or resist the corrosion? Did the rain simply wash away the EEZOX, causing it to not protect that sample as well?

My main take away question from these results is now "Are these products that finished as better rust inhibiters more tenacious at staying in place, than some of the others which intermittently perform well?"

My other question, which has been touched on but I don't find a complete answer to, is "How well do the best rated dry lubes stay put before wearing away or otherwise stop lubricating?"

As a side bar, I plan to try the WD-40 Specialized Anti-corrosion product in a test outside on my garden tools side-by-side against the old tried and true Boiled Linseed Oil. Not for your fine guns, but linseed oil has been used by mariners for centuries as a rust inhibitor for rough use items. I coat the inside of my wheel barrow with it and let it dry before use. While it will certainly wear off after a while, it does a good job to fight back rust. I use it on exterior building "carriage bolts" and fittings one might see with timber frame structures. After it is applied to the bolt, the bolt takes on a wet appearance. I did this on the exposed bolts of my front porch when first built in 1996. To this day, they have not rusted, and still look new. Of course, they are under the shelter of the porch, but they still get the outside temps and humidity.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 2:51 pm 
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Because I just moved to insanely humid Florida I'm interested in using WD-40 Specialist only on the finish of my firearms. It's nearly 40% cheaper per ounce than the Hornady spray.

Does anyone know if this product is harmful to gun finishes?

For the people who bought the WD-40 Speciialist, what is your personal review of its performance?


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sat Oct 10, 2015 7:56 pm 
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I bought a can of it, but frankly I'm reluctant to using it on the regular use firearms. I still use Hoppe's gun oil rubbed with a cotton t-shirt patch. The guns I clean often get regular use so corrosion just isn't a concern.

I would consider using the WD40 Specialist Corrosion Inhibitor on some of my safe queens that get little to no use. That's where it would be valuable to me. It goes on very thin, not like a thicker oil.

Keep in mind that WD40 Specialist is a series of products, Corrosion Inhibitor if just one of several.

The stuff is great for garage door and car door hinges, I've found.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:20 am 
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I put WD40 Specialist Corrosion Inhibitor on all my metal after I clean my guns. You dont need much. I dont use it for a lubricant, though it does have some lubricating properties.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 8:27 am 
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gliderman wrote:
I put WD40 Specialist Corrosion Inhibitor on all my metal after I clean my guns. You dont need much. I dont use it for a lubricant, though it does have some lubricating properties.


It's safe to assume you haven't had any adverse effects to your finish or else you would have stopped using it. How long have you been using it if you don't mind me asking?


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 9:07 am 
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Since about June. I have it on all my guns now. But my main shotgun gets used two or three times a week and I clean it about twice a month then wipe down the metal with the WD40 Specialist Corrosion Inhibitor.

No signs of it effecting the wood or gloss finish on my 682 Gold E. The only finish I would worry about is oil finish on wood. But it doesnt seem to have any solvent properties.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 10:49 am 
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How are you applying it, do you spray it on a rag and wipe, or do you spray it right onto the gun, then wipe?

I've been curious about how it will affect the wood and rubber seals, long term.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 12:59 pm 
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Living in Oklahoma I could get away with using RemOil every 2 or 3 months with zero issues. I moved to Florida in August and within TWO weeks my shotguns looked like they had been dusted for fingerprints at a crime scene there was so much rust everywhere. The humidity here is insane! Thankfully I'll only be here for a year.

I'm in full blown rust prevent mode.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Oct 11, 2015 7:30 pm 
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DallasCMT wrote:
How are you applying it, do you spray it on a rag and wipe, or do you spray it right onto the gun, then wipe?

I've been curious about how it will affect the wood and rubber seals, long term.


I put a squirt on the metal and use a cotton cloth wash rag, 8 for $1.00 at walmart. The cloth is kept in my gun case so it is virtually saturated and I use it to wipe off my barrel after each shoot.

I have wiped down all my guns with it and my semi autos dont have any rubber/plastic seals. The few plastic stocks I have dont seem to mind, but I dont spray them with it. The finish on my other stocks dont seem to mind and I have a few oil stocks.

I dont really wet anything down, just a coating like the directions say.

On pistols and guns that require constant lube, I use frog lube clp, or rem oil on my match pistols.


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AAA+ presentation. Many thanks for the valuable information.


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 Post subject: Re: Results of gun care product evaluation
PostPosted: Sun Dec 06, 2015 10:12 pm 
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Has anyone else had problems with HOPPES #9 solvent gumming up and almost turning to varnish after it has been applied if the gun has sat for a little while? HOPPES solvent is all I use and as of recently I have been having troubles with a few firing pins getting gummed up as well as some over unders becoming difficult to break open because the HOPPES has gummed up in the breech




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