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 Post subject: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:03 pm 
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Hey guys im looking for your opinion on which gun you like the best(1100;870 from Remington) and why you like/dont like the gun. Just doin some research before I buy a gun for trap/skeet/and a little hunting. Thanks :)


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 Post subject: re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:19 pm 
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you want a cheap auto the 11-87 sportsmen is pretty dam inexpensive


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:31 pm 
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Hcgregg3 wrote:
Hey guys im looking for your opinion on which gun you like the best(1100;870 from Remington) and why you like/dont like the gun. Just doin some research before I buy a gun for trap/skeet/and a little hunting. Thanks :)



:roll: Then get the 1100!
As for comparing a 1100 to a express...well don't, a express is a unfinished piece of junk!
A more fair comparison is a 870 Wingmaster to a 1100, then it's just more of which type action you like best, a pump or an auto.
Both are great guns, I know got both (1187 skeet)
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 Post subject: Re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 6:47 pm 
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Hcgregg3 wrote:
Hey guys im looking for your opinion on which gun you like the best(1100;870 from Remington)


Both :!:

1976 870TB Trap
1980 870SA Skeet
1989 870 20g Ltwt
1994 870TC Trap
1995 870 Wingmaster
2005 1100 Classic Trap

All bought new in their year of manufacture.

This is not counting my wife's 1100TA Trap, 1100 Sporting 28 and 11-87SC

The 870TB has been my main trap gun from 1976 until the mid 1990's when I got the 870TC, though the TB still got a lot of use. Trap is my main shooting game.

I used the 870SA for skeet though I don't currently shoot skeet.

The 870 20g Ltwt is my "go to" upland gun.

I use the 870 Wingmaster for sporting clays when I want to shoot a pump for the game.

The 1100 Classic Trap was bought because I needed and excuse for a new gun and at 54, I have various "damage" from years ago and am prone to migranes, the reduced recoil sensation from the 1100 is a bonus.

For hunting, I like the pump, a lot of my hunting used to be in the remote regions of Northern Ontario and the 870 is easier to strip down in camp, if needed.

Also, I just like shooting pumps, I am old enough to have come up through the ranks shooting them, after 36 years and several 100,000 rounds, I can cycle them fast enough to do whatever I want with them. I found years ago it was not hard for even an akward person like myself to shoot doubles or triples with a pump, if they want to and learn how to do it; if they don't, an autoloader might be better for them.

I find I do like the slightly heavier 1100 Classic Trap. with that weight more "forward", as compared to the 870TB or TC; though I can still shoot my 870 trap guns as well as ever on trap.

If I was going back into skeet or sporting clays, I'd likely buy a new 1100 Sporting or Skeet for the weight and recoil reduction.

For hunting, now, it would be a toss up, probably still my 20g 870, though a new 1100 20g would be looked at pretty closely.

Sorry, that's a bunch of rambling that likely doesn't help much :oops:


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 Post subject: re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 8:24 pm 
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Get yourself the 1100 and save many a headache


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 Post subject: re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 9:00 pm 
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DO NOT get an 870 Express. Find a used 870 Wingmaster or buy a new one OR get either of the auto's you mentioned. A pump WILL be more versitile but an auto WILL kick less. ( or so it seems :wink: ) I would go with an 870 WINGMASTER But that's just me :D

BT


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 Post subject: re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:17 pm 
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There is nothing wrong with an 870 Express. I own two of them. One in 20 gauge and one in 12 gauge. They both work just fine. They aren't junk either. I've bagged ducks, dove, turkey and clays with my 870 Express.

Having said that, the 1100 and the 870 Express are completely different shotguns. The 1100 is a much more refined shotgun than the 870 Express and costs quite a bit more too.

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 Post subject: re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:40 pm 
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i wouldnt say the 870 EXPRESS is junk but the workmanship and quality isnt up to par with the rest of their line.

the wingmaster however is very well built.

its like tempest vs le mans vs GTO, same design, vastly different quality.

http://www.gunbroker.com/Auction/ViewIt ... m=53229867

$175, ends in 45 minutes.

get it while you can.


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 Post subject: re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 10:41 pm 
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for shooting lots of shells, like trap. buy the 1100. for laying in the mud goose hunting buy the 870 express. i have had several 870's both wingmasters and express's and the slickest smoothest action is on a current express i have. so it is a luck of the draw on the 870 express. my current wingmaster is to tight, get it a little dirty or dry and it starts having issues, but in 20,000 more rounds it should be just fine :lol:

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 Post subject: re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sat Jul 29, 2006 11:25 pm 
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looks like nobody was interested so in 15 minutes that suckers mine.

Edit:

Dear 30-06AP,

Congratulations! You have won auction #53229867 at GunBroker.com. You may
wish to print or save this notice for future reference.

mine now.


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 Post subject: re: Remington 1100 Semi-auto vs. 870 Pump express
PostPosted: Sun Jul 30, 2006 8:59 am 
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Hey guys, thanks for all of your help. My local gun dealer is going to give me a call if he comes across any used 1100's. The new price tag is just too big for a beginer like me. Congrats to 30-06AP for winning that auction.


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