Dan; First hunt with nice . 12 ga, 3/4 oz (scaled) 139 nice #5 pellet duck load .When field hunting , ducks come first , but not today . Honkers first . Wow at approx 30 yrds with mod choke it looked like it pushed them backwards . 3 shots 3 honkers . I am hooked on nice shot !!! This proved to me this will be a great all around duck load . For A all around goose load #4 not enough energy , #2 not enough pellet count for small bore and (light load) reloaders . I think a #3 pellet would be a perfect fit with energy and pellet count . The odd #3 is a great seller in steel loads . Who knows it could be a great seller for you also . #5 ducks #3 geese and 46 rounds per kilo with my target loading componets , Love it !!!!!