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 Post subject: No lead shot in CA for 2015-2016
PostPosted: Fri Aug 14, 2015 11:52 am 
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Just trying to get a clarification... here is a quote from DFG website..


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In April 2015, the Fish and Game Commission adopted CDFW’s proposed regulations, which will implement the nonlead requirement in the following three phases:

Phase 1 – Effective July 1, 2015, nonlead ammunition will be required when taking Nelson bighorn sheep and all wildlife on state wildlife areas and ecological reserves.

Phase 2 – Effective July 1, 2016, nonlead shot will be required when taking upland game birds with a shotgun, except for dove, quail, snipe, and any game birds taken on licensed game bird clubs. In addition, nonlead shot will be required when using a shotgun to take resident small game mammals, furbearing mammals, nongame mammals, nongame birds, and any wildlife for depredation purposes.

Phase 3 – Effective July 1, 2019, nonlead ammunition will be required when taking any wildlife with a firearm anywhere in California.


So lets say your hunting quail at Nelson Slough, Fremont Weir or Oroville wildlife area. Does phase 1 apply "all wildlife on state wildlife areas".?? Or does phase 2 apply " nonlead shot will be required when taking upland game birds with a shotgun, except for dove, quail, snipe"??.......

Any help would be appreciated...
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 Post subject: Re: No lead shot in CA for 2015-2016
PostPosted: Fri Jul 22, 2016 9:19 am 
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Or does phase 2 apply " nonlead shot will be required when taking upland game birds with a shotgun, except for dove, quail, snipe"??.......

This is correct. Also is shooting dove, quail for snipe on any sort of wildlife area non-lead sh*t only.
For me, I have been using steel shot for years in the condor range and Imperial Valley, have had no issues. I don't like B.S. laws, but, I like to hunt and will do what is required, nonsensical or not.


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 Post subject: Re: No lead shot in CA for 2015-2016
PostPosted: Tue Dec 06, 2016 3:44 pm 
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I read Phase 1 as requiring non-lead ammo on any state wildlife area for any game.

Phase 2 looks like it applies to the entire state except for private clubs.

So far I've avoided steel for doves but might switch over next year just to get used to it and to keep my options open for state lands. From what I've read #7 steel is equally good within 30 yards, which is all I should be shooting anyway. As long as the stores don't run out I won't complain. I haven't read any research on uplands and lead shot, but it's not crazy to me that multiple generations unloading a few pounds each per year on the same couple acres would end up being a problem over time.

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