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 Post subject: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 11:58 am 
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Any one else having "Failure To Fire" problems with a Dickinson SxS? (Light primer hits.)

Federal shotshells seem to have the primer seated just a tad deeper than normal, and seem to cause more of these FTF's. But I also experience this problem with other brands, and with reloads.

Anyone else having FTF problems?

I know Dickinson has a lifetime warranty; and I may send the shotgun for repair...

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Thu Sep 08, 2016 2:20 pm 
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I have the S&W Elite Gold (the daddy of the Dickinson) in 20 gauge and have never had any issues with my reloads (Fiocchi primers) or Remington Gun Clubs (factory)
Have you looked to see if maybe some pierced primers have cause a little erosion to the pins? That was an issue with some ammo types in Browning lower barrels.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Sun Sep 11, 2016 12:44 pm 
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Happy to say "none" in my Dickinson SXS 20 ga (about 1.5 years old), with 100s of rounds through it -- including many Federal loads too.

Hope you get it fixed OK.

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PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 11:50 am 
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I have two Dickinsons - a 20 gauge and a 28 gauge. Neither have given me any kind of problems and they are not the least bit picky about the shells I use.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Mon Sep 12, 2016 2:11 pm 
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This weekend I shot a box of factory Winchester AA's in my 12 gauge Dickinson with no misfires.

Also shot two boxes of AA reloads using Winchester primers, and had one misfire out of 50 rounds (2%).

My AA reloads with Nobel primers result in 10% to 20% "Fail-To- Fires."

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 11:34 am 
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100 rounds of federal NIB 12 G yesterday with one primer misfire


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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 02, 2016 7:04 pm 
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I continued to have misfires (light primer hits), although much fewer with Winchester AA's.

I sent it in to the Dickinson warranty station in Oregon for repair.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 10, 2016 7:57 am 
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gold40 wrote:
I sent it in to the Dickinson warranty station in Oregon for repair.
gold40

Good luck with that -- it will be interesting (for us too) if they tell you what they found & fixed. Please update us once you know, thanks.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Sat Oct 22, 2016 9:39 pm 
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I've got a Gold Elite (20) and a Dickinson (.410) and have not had any FTFs with either. I have put 3,093 rounds through the .410 to date. Though I haven't keep an accurate record for it, I probably have about that many rounds through the Gold Elite too. Mostly AA factory and reloads (various primers) with some Golden Pheasant through the Gold Elite.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 08, 2016 4:43 pm 
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I received my 12 gauge Dickinson back from the Oregon warranty center (about 4 weeks). Problem appears to be resolved, but I'm not sure what they actually did.

On the phone, they said the firing pin was long enough, but the left hammer was dragging on an internal part. They also said they adjusted the headspace -- I have no idea how one does so on a SxS?

I shot one round of sporting clays over the weekend, and it now functions O.K. I'll report back after I shoot it more....

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 13, 2016 9:40 pm 
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The Dickinson is working well....


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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 10:03 am 
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gold40 wrote:
The Dickinson is working well....


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In the words of The Duke (kinda), "That'll do, pilgrim".

On the headspace issue, Both my S&W Elite Gold 20 ga and my 16 ga Dickinson have headspace so tight that I can't use reloads shot in another gun. The rims on the reloads prevent the gun from locking up tight enough to get reliable firing. The fix for tight headspace is to run a chamber reamer in until it will accept the gauge properly. I recognize the issue on my two AKUS guns, but just deal with it by shooting factory loads and keep those hulls separate for reloading clay target loads. Seems to be a common issue with AKUS SXS's.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 12:18 pm 
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FWIW, no problems here thus far with either 20 or 28 gauge barrels in a two-barrel set Dickinson.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 6:57 pm 
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In the words of The Duke (kinda), "That'll do, pilgrim".

On the headspace issue, Both my S&W Elite Gold 20 ga and my 16 ga Dickinson have headspace so tight that I can't use reloads shot in another gun. The rims on the reloads prevent the gun from locking up tight enough to get reliable firing. The fix for tight headspace is to run a chamber reamer in until it will accept the gauge properly. I recognize the issue on my two AKUS guns, but just deal with it by shooting factory loads and keep those hulls separate for reloading clay target loads. Seems to be a common issue with AKUS SXS's.

I haven't run into any issues with my Gold Elite with AA hulls that have been shot in any of the other 20 gauges in the house... those include a Citori, a CZ Bobwhite and a Remington 870. I reload with a MEC Sizemaster. I wonder if that collet sizer makes any difference?

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Mon Nov 14, 2016 7:39 pm 
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GrizG wrote:
Riflemeister wrote:
In the words of The Duke (kinda), "That'll do, pilgrim".

On the headspace issue, Both my S&W Elite Gold 20 ga and my 16 ga Dickinson have headspace so tight that I can't use reloads shot in another gun. The rims on the reloads prevent the gun from locking up tight enough to get reliable firing. The fix for tight headspace is to run a chamber reamer in until it will accept the gauge properly. I recognize the issue on my two AKUS guns, but just deal with it by shooting factory loads and keep those hulls separate for reloading clay target loads. Seems to be a common issue with AKUS SXS's.

I haven't run into any issues with my Gold Elite with AA hulls that have been shot in any of the other 20 gauges in the house... those include a Citori, a CZ Bobwhite and a Remington 870. I reload with a MEC Sizemaster. I wonder if that collet sizer makes any difference?


Probably not, it happens with both my Sizemaster and MEC 9000.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 3:26 pm 
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My 20 gauge Dickinson has had about a case & 1/2 of Rio shells through it without any issues. I don't reload 20 gauge and so can't comment on tight headspace with reloads. Good to know that there is some factory support available on these guns even if mine was one of the first Cabela's guns that were sold all as "used" and therefore no OEM warranty. Gun doesn't get used much since it needs to be bend to fit my LH'ed body and at present beats me up and so really needs to be bend soon.

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 Post subject: Re: Dickinson SxS Misfires ?
PostPosted: Thu Jan 05, 2017 7:41 pm 
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Since my Dickinson returned from the warranty station, it has performed well. I've hunted it 20+ days and shot several rounds of Sporting Clays -- with zero problems. Kudo's to the importer for standing behind their product.




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