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 Post subject: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 9:05 am 
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Hello everyone,

I've been lurking on the forum for quite sometime before joining. I've been getting some good insight on the world of shotguns, thanks to all of you.

For the past 3 months, I've gotten hooked on shooting clays. I first stared playing trap, but that's until playing my first round of sporting clay..... I started shooting with an old O/U that was given to me. With no time I obtained an 870, because I wanted something new to shoot, instead of the old O/U. I was playing twice a week for over a month and I felt like I was lacking something in my game.... I wanted to experience the autoloading shotguns to see if that was it.

After doing some homework I've had my eye on several autoloaders. There were setups that would last me a lifetime and others would last me a few seasons. I was narrowing down my search and the Weatherby SA-08 seemed to be the most appealing to me. Ive been wrestling the Idea of owning an autoloader. My biggest worry was not being able to cycle the light loads used for shooting clays. I gambled and ended up picking up a Weatherby SA-08 Synthetic (12 gauge).

My first initial thought after putting it together was how light and maneuverable it was. The swing was very well controlled. With the synthetic model, the balance may be awkward for some. I can see where some didn't like that it was front heavy, but that doesn't bother me much at all. I've heard adding sticky wheel weights inside the stock may help counter some weight and help balance the shotgun. The shotgun was well lubricated and was wet out of the box, so I stripped her down, gave it a nice cleaning and took it out to shoot some clay.

Upon arriving at the local course, I wanted to put a box of hot loads through it to give it some sort of "break in" and to make sure it operated properly as per recommended by Weatherby. The recommended break in is 100 hot loads, but I only used one box of 4 shot, 3" 1550 FPS shells using the heavy piston that came with the Weatherby. The SA-08 cycled single shots and quick bursts of 3 (plug still installed) without a problem. I then switched over to a light piston and started using light target loads (1145-1200 FPS). A rounds of sporting and a round of trap later, I was really impressed at how well the shotgun was shooting.

There is one little thing that bothers me however, and that is the bead. They couldn't put a smaller one on there. I've been thinking about getting an aftermarket one. Meanwhile I painted the one I have white. It seemed to help.

At this point I've put 200 rounds through the Weatherby and I would recommend the SA-08 to anyone and everyone. I plan on shooting it until I get another autoloader... which might not be for several years.




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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 4:33 pm 
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Welcome to SGW and congrat's on the new gun. ...and sorry about the new addiction. :lol:

I have no doubt that SA-08 will serve you well. We've got 3 20ga versions in the family and my brother just picked up a now discontinued 12ga Upland version of the SA-08. Your story sounds about like his as he's only been "addicted" for a few months and the W'by followed an 870.

Based on my experiences with the 20ga versions, I had him skip the heavy loads. He started with some Walmart specials and has since upgraded to Herters and Gun Clubs and his has never missed a beat.

I'm not sure where you do your shooting but just as a FYI, around here and at every club I've been to, you're limited to nothing larger than 7-1/2 shot and we even have a few that have signs limiting you to nothing faster than 1200 or 1250 fps. Don't want you to get in trouble and not have a place to enjoy your new toy!
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Enjoy and keep us posted on your progress.


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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 8:13 pm 
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Stuck-N-Kali wrote:
Welcome to SGW and congrat's on the new gun. ...and sorry about the new addiction. :lol:

I have no doubt that SA-08 will serve you well. We've got 3 20ga versions in the family and my brother just picked up a now discontinued 12ga Upland version of the SA-08. Your story sounds about like his as he's only been "addicted" for a few months and the W'by followed an 870.

Based on my experiences with the 20ga versions, I had him skip the heavy loads. He started with some Walmart specials and has since upgraded to Herters and Gun Clubs and his has never missed a beat.

I'm not sure where you do your shooting but just as a FYI, around here and at every club I've been to, you're limited to nothing larger than 7-1/2 shot and we even have a few that have signs limiting you to nothing faster than 1200 or 1250 fps. Don't want you to get in trouble and not have a place to enjoy your new toy!
:D

Enjoy and keep us posted on your progress.


Thank you!

Yes, all the clubs around here are the same with size of the shot. The heavy shells I used, I shot in to a mound of dirt.

This is hands down a huge addiction lol


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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Tue Jul 25, 2017 9:08 pm 
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My first SA-08 20 gauge had issues cycling mass market ammo. Weatherby customer service was great and exchanged it for another gun which has worked flawlessly. You don't just buy the gun, you buy the brand. Weatherby customer service can't be matched. Enjoy your gun and feel comforted that Weatherby has your back if you have issues.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Thu Aug 10, 2017 5:38 pm 
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I just received my new SA-08 today. It had no manual
with it, so I got on line and downloaded one.

In the schematic, it shows a magazine plug and magazine
plug blocker, which I assume is a retainer to keep the
thing from falling out the front of the magazine. This is
pages 23(picture) and 26(name of part) of the manual.

There seems to be nowhere in the instructions in how to
remove or put the plug in the magazine tube. It appears
that blocker/retainer thing has a hole in it and a bump on
one side, which may have something to do with removing
or inserting the plug.

I took another look at it, and tried to figure it out. I stuck
a small screw driver in the hole, and under the bump, and
turned the blocker/retainer sideways and it comes out and
the plug also now comes out.

Next I see that apparently you have to remove the magazine
spring from the rear of the tube. Has anyone done this, and
if so are there any surprises there?

I removed the pad, and saw the stuff for getting the stock off.
After lots of fooling around I decided it was held together with
a 6 mm metric allen wrench, so I removed the stock.

The gun had several spacers for adjusting things. It had way
too much drop at the heel for me without any spacers. I found
two spacers that would reduce the drop at the heel. One was
marked 50 and one marked 55. The one with 50 looked like
it would reduce the drop the most, so I installed it. Yep,
I measured the drop with that one in there and it measured
50 mm, just under 2 inches, much closer to what I want.

So I put it back together and shoulder the thing. The drop is
pretty good now, but that sigma curve of the pistol grip was
made for King Kong. If I wore a large size glove it might be
perfect for me, Unfortunately I am not Shequile O'Neal and
I wear that very odd size glove, called medium, and
when my hand is on the curve of the pistol grip in good
position, just the very tip of finger is on the trigger. Great,
the damn stock has to go. I wonder if their youth stock has
a curve that will fit King Kong as well. What this large size
pistol grip does is place my hand further back on the stock.
It has been a long time since I ran into that, but years ago,
I think a Mossberg pump gun gave me the same type of fit,
and I replaced that stock also. Any of you guys have a youth
stock to compare it to?

Tomorrow I shoot it. First I will check the point of impact
and see how close it comes to point of aim. Then on to
try some targets.

I put in the full choke tube to test it tomorrow, and I notice
the choke tubes differ. The full and mod have 4 notches
for a choke wrench, which is good, because my other
20 choke wrench should fit it, it having 4 notches. The
imp cyl wrench though only has two notches, and that
wrench is not going to work with that choke, I guess.

I looked down the barrel to check for straightness, and it
does appear to be straight. Also the choke tube appears
to be inserted straight and centered.

So to recap my questions, has anyone taken off the magazine
tube? Also does anyone have a youth stock and can tell me
if the curve of the pistol grip is smaller?

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 1:05 pm 
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I checked the point of aim/impact today. The gun
shoots right on horizontally, and about 2 inches low
at 20 yards. So I need a higher comb to get the
pattern raised that 2 inches, in order to have it
shoot right on.

I tried about 12 rounds through it automatically,
and if failed to cycle about a third of the time with
these cheap Winchester Universal loads. The failure
to cycle were all stove pipe failures, shell pointing
out of the chamber but not ejected. It could
smooth out with a little use, so at this point I am
not too concerned, but I will try some better shells
like federal or Remington and see if it handles those
any better.

The gun operates very weird, I never know if the
bolt is going to lock back or go forward, guess I
have to read the manual to figure out the eccentricities
of it's operation. The trigger is not bad, because I
never noticed it being good or bad, so it is light
enough that it did not come to my attention as being
bad.

I think the gun will probably work out, but I have to
replace the stock to get one made for a human being
sized hand and to get the comb where I want it.
At least, there should be a market for the stock if
I want to sell it. Probably lots of youth models have
been sold that have owners that want the full sized
stock, and if so, I can sell them mine, once I have
a replacement built up.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:26 pm 
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Bought a 20 ga youth for my son. It has been fine for clays, pheasants, and geese. It is a PITA to reassemble after cleaning, so much so that it has almost been binned a few times. I have solved that problem by giving 100% cleaning responsibility to the boy.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 5:48 pm 
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Advocate: not surprising you had some fail to ejects (FTE), as you didn't run 100 shells (1300+ fps) through the gun first as Weatherby recommends.

I have an SA-08 Deluxe in 20ga that runs beautifully with the lightest of target loads. Of course, I followed directions.

And RPRNY - I'm not sure what is so difficult about assembly and cleaning. It disassembles/assembles much like any other semi-auto shotgun, and cleaning is far easier than some, especially a Beretta 390/391.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Fri Aug 11, 2017 9:08 pm 
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I read the instructions on the unusual things in the operation,
and I think that will help a lot. I really expected trouble from
these Winchester Universals, and it almost cycled even when
it failed. I think I will run it wet with CLP next time out and see
if that gets it moving more loosely. It probably will. I don't
see any point in running heavy loads in it. If you run heavy
loads, you use the heavy piston which slows it down anyway,
so it does not make a lot of sense to me. The main thing is
to just work the action for a while, all autos and pumps smooth
up with running them for awhile, and this probably is not
an exception. I started on a stock for it, that should be done
in a few days, if I don't get side tracked. Probably will get side
tracked, because I got several projects going on right now.
I really don't like shooting the thing with the factory stock,
and I would also like it heavier, so that it handles more
like my other guns. Once I get the stock done and add some
weight out front it should suit me better.

I was surprised to see it only has one action bar, and even
more surprised to see that it appears to be brazed onto the
action sleeve. That does not look all that good for longevity,
but who knows? Time will tell.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Sat Aug 12, 2017 10:27 pm 
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RPRNY wrote:
Bought a 20 ga youth for my son. It has been fine for clays, pheasants, and geese. It is a PITA to reassemble after cleaning, so much so that it has almost been binned a few times. I have solved that problem by giving 100% cleaning responsibility to the boy.


It's way easier to reassemble if you remove the trigger group for every cleaning, and once done, reinstall the group last after everything else is assembled. Way easier to fit the link into the action spring entrance that way. Had mine for three years before I read the manual and found that was the recommended method. You can install the bolt etc. by standing the gun vertically on its butt with the group in, but it may require a few tries to get everything lined up.


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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Sun Aug 13, 2017 1:20 pm 
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I got my new stock about 3/4 done, but have a couple more
hours until finished. Will probably get it done Monday or
Tuesday, and can shoot it again Wednesday.

In the mean time I went shooting today, Sunday, and at
the gun club they had my shotgun on the wall for sale,
brand new, $349. Yep, my gun right down to the bigger
than life pistol grip, that I handled and found it was made
by the same designer as mine and felt just as bad. There
was a difference. This gun, 99% indentical to mine was
labeled a "Pointer". not Weatherby or even Mossberg which
also sells the gun under their name, I am told, for about
$50 less than Weatherby. Anyway the light was too bad to
read the name of the maker of this Pointer, so I did an
internet search and found the company.

They did not have any good pictures of the model that
was hanging at the gun club, $349, but they did have
some good pictures of their 12 ga models. Sure enough
the same idiot apparently designed the stock for all
of them as shown by this picture of someone holding
their 12 gauge and pointing it. As you can see, the pistol
grip is long for a very large hand, and in fact the guy holding
it only has the tip of his finger on the trigger, and his thumb
is almost in his eye, with the position of the hand so far
back. I assume this guy is not a midget, so it pretty well
shows how off dimension the pistol grip is.
link to picture of the king kong pistol grip:
https://www.legacysports.com/wp-content ... Sights.jpg

it remains to be seen how long "Pointer" will be around,
but Weatherby and Mossberg should be there for a while,
with parts, and then there is Numrich, Gunpartscorp.com,
who sells parts for it. So we should be able to get parts of
it for some time if they are needed. Also the parts should
be cheap. I noticed Numrich sells complete trigger assemblies
for only $65.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 1:21 pm 
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I got my stock done enough to shoot and took the
gun out again.

I still have 75 of the Winchester Universal to try out.
I put some breakfree CLP on the gas system, piston,
magazine, cylinder to lube things up, then started
shooting.

I loaded 5 at a time all through the 75 shots. With
the CLP lubing things up it went about 35 rounds without
a fail to cycle, then finally got a stove pipe jam, same
as I was getting 1/3 rd of the time during my first
shooting of it with the first box of shells shooting it dry.
So it did much better with lubrication. After that failure
I got another stove pipe failure within a shot or two, then
finished out at least the last two magazines, 10 shots
without a failure. Then I put a few more drops of CLP
in the gas system, worked the action a couple times
to spread it around, and fired the last box of shells
with no failures. 2 cycle failure in 75 rounds with those
universal loads, pretty good, I think.

It looks like this thing is going to cycle fine with some
break in time on it.

I shot lots of close targets standing a few feet behind
station 8 on the skeet field to get used to the light weight
doing fast crossers. The gun now weighs 7 lbs 3 ounces
with my steel and fiberglass stock on it.

Recoil is really mild, and comfortable.

Trigger is very nice, I never even noticed it.

This gun is a pleasure to shoot.

I suspect it is going to be breaking parts, but
that is only guess right now, not fact. Time will
tell. I like shooting it enough that I will put
some rounds through it pretty fast and find out
maybe if it is going to hold up well.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Wed Aug 16, 2017 2:17 pm 
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About an hour after the last post, I decided to clean
the gun.

I can't get the bolt handle out.

Instructions say,
3. Push the slide assembly approximately 1” rearward (towards the buttstock),
and hold

4. Remove the bolt handle by grasping with fingers and pulling outward
(see Fig. 13 below), making sureto hold back the slide from moving forward


My bolt handle does not come out as I do those steps.
Anyone have any helpful comments?

Update, a pair of pliers on the bolt handle and it does come out.

It is mostly apart now and looks like a nice simple design with
a minimum of parts. The firing pin is simple enough a person
could make one with only a lathe or maybe a drill press and a
file if he were creative.

Looks to me like maybe the recoil spring is removed from the
front with some sort of latch to hold it in place, but this is just
a preliminary guess, if correct that is nice and simple..

I got it back together without reading instructions, just sort
of put the bolt & slide together and put it back in getting the
link into the follower on the recoil spring then sort of reversed
the handle removal and inserted the handle back in. Pretty
pain free all in all.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Fri Aug 18, 2017 2:01 pm 
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Next I bought 200 rounds of Cheap federal shells to
test the gun.

I went to the range again meaning to shoot 100 of these
cheap federals and see how they cooperated.

If you recall, on the first 25 cheap Winchester it failed to
cycle about a 1/3 of the time. Next I lubed it with Breakfree
CLP and in only failed to cycle 2 times in 75.

So for my test of the cheap federal I started out with it dry,
no lube. Also I always kept a round in the magazine, except
when I was on my last 25th shell of a box, that way it tested
cycling every time it fired except the last one. It went the
box, 25 without a failure to cycle, dry. So I never did lube
it this time and continued on. It went through the next 50
without a failure to cycle. At that point the gun was getting
pretty warm, since I was shooting by myself, so I set it
aside, and shot the last 25 with another gun that was cooler.

This thing is really working good. Also I shoot it well enough,
that I don't mind shooting it all the time, so I am going to
continue using it awhile, and maybe see if it holds up over
time and use.

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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:11 pm 
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I think you will find over time the bolt handle will be easier to remove. We have two of them and have found that to be so. I had to loop a piece of cord on one for a while (for fear of scratching the gun with pliers)


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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Sun Aug 20, 2017 12:12 pm 
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I think you will find over time the bolt handle will be easier to remove. We have two of them and have found that to be so. I had to loop a piece of cord on one for a while (for fear of scratching the gun with pliers)


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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Wed Oct 11, 2017 11:15 am 
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A friend just bought a new turkish 20 ga. Weatherby SA-08 for a bit over $600. He is very pleased with it, but has only fired about 200 shells thus far. I shot a few clays with it this weekend. No malfunctions or problems.

It is nicely finished in the Weatherby tradition; high gloss stock with attractive checkering. The gun handles well, and points naturally. Comes with both "heavy load" and "light load" gas cylinders. Seems like a good buy for the money.

I suppose the real test is how it performs in future years after firing several thousand rounds.


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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Tue Nov 21, 2017 8:35 pm 
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My friend just added a 5 ounce barrel weight and a new rubber recoil pad to his 20 gauge Weatherby SA-08. Big improvement in handling. Nice shotgun became even nicer.


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 Post subject: Re: Weatherby SA-08 Experience
PostPosted: Wed Feb 07, 2018 3:05 pm 
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gold40 wrote:
A friend just bought a new turkish 20 ga. Weatherby SA-08 for a bit over $600. He is very pleased with it, but has only fired about 200 shells thus far. I shot a few clays with it this weekend. No malfunctions or problems.

It is nicely finished in the Weatherby tradition; high gloss stock with attractive checkering. The gun handles well, and points naturally. Comes with both "heavy load" and "light load" gas cylinders. Seems like a good buy for the money.

I suppose the real test is how it performs in future years after firing several thousand rounds.



I bought one a few years ago, embarrassed to admit only around a box or so thru it at the present time, great finish, no issues so far, a bit more recoil than I expected for a 20 gauge especially since its a S/A.. as with most of my shotguns I see way more rib/barrel than I should when its shouldered fast. Only exception is a 20 gauge SXS Spanish double I inherited years ago. Absolutely perfect every time. Then said, I always shot pretty well with all of them. Go figure.. Always wanted a Weatherby .300 magnum when they first came out way back when. Looks like this will be the only one I will have. Its certainly a looker with the gold finished Weatherby logo and glossy Turkish walnut stock. I also bought a couple boxes of slugs, curious to see how accurate it is out to around 50 yards.




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