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 Post subject: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Mon Aug 08, 2016 5:27 pm 
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I just noticed this forum, and find it pretty interesting.
It appears that most themes are directed toward to
hypnosis. I know that can be an effective thing, actually
when back in college I was pretty interested in all this
sort of stuff and did hypnotize people myself.

So, what about people who cannot be hypnotized?
I am one of those myself, I never have experienced
it.

How do you help people that can't be hypnotized, and if
so how?



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 Post subject: Re: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:32 pm 
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I have been hypnotized several times and I've always enjoyed the experience. I've been hypnotized in a group when we weren't told we were going to be hypnotized. It isn't that difficult to do.

In order to be hypnotized one must buy into it. You have to decide that you trust the person enough to allow them to become personal enough with you in order for you to be hypnotized. Trust is extremely important. A cynic cannot be hypnotized. You cannot be hypnotized if you are angry. You have to decide that you are there to participate to the fullest that you can. Of course, when you are hypnotized you are aware of everything that is going on around you. You are perfectly conscious, but you might not be totally aware of what is going on between you and the hypnotist. That is where the trust comes in. Can being hypnotized actually cure you of something? I don't know. I know that I feel rested when it's all over and I seem to remember everything that happened.


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 Post subject: Re: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 27, 2016 8:34 pm 
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DevilsAdvocate wrote:
I just noticed this forum, and find it pretty interesting.
It appears that most themes are directed toward to
hypnosis. I know that can be an effective thing, actually
when back in college I was pretty interested in all this
sort of stuff and did hypnotize people myself.

So, what about people who cannot be hypnotized?
I am one of those myself, I never have experienced
it.

How do you help people that can't be hypnotized, and if
so how?


You probably don't believe that you can be hypnotized. If you did, truly did, you probably could be.


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 Post subject: Re: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 9:56 am 
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DevilsAdvocate wrote:
I just noticed this forum, and find it pretty interesting.
It appears that most themes are directed toward to
hypnosis. I know that can be an effective thing, actually
when back in college I was pretty interested in all this
sort of stuff and did hypnotize people myself.

So, what about people who cannot be hypnotized?
I am one of those myself, I never have experienced
it.

How do you help people that can't be hypnotized, and if
so how?


Thanks for asking... and, yes, I use hypnosis to help people make quick and permanent change to issues that have haunted them for a while. It is a great tool.

As far as your question regarding people who can't be hypnotized...
Let's just start by saying Everyone Can Be Hypnotized. It is a huge misconception that people can not be. Hypnosis is a normal process and state of mind. Every human passes in and out of it several times a day; and every time they fall asleep and wake up. Light hypnosis is the same as the Alpha state, deep hypnosis is the same as the Theta state. People can keep themselves out of these states either willingly or unknowingly. Think of times you have had difficulty falling asleep (when you successfully fall asleep you pass from Beta, to Alpha, to Theta, then to sleep in Delta). Your conscious mind is the culprit... it can over-think, over-analyze, and be in fear-based thinking... all of which will keep you from falling asleep (AKA... go into Alpha, then Theta, then Delta)... this is exactly what keeps one from going into hypnosis. Part of my job then is to ease one's mind about hypnosis, educate them as to what it is, build their trust, and creating the opportunity for them to experience it on their own. Done right, and done well... everyone easily goes into hypnosis :)

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 Post subject: Re: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 01, 2016 11:35 am 
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And when we get to the range and every target looks like it's the size of a trash can lid, and with our brains in auto-pilot it's dead-pair after dead-pair, what state are we likey in?


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 Post subject: Re: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 29, 2017 12:00 am 
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I haven't been back to this sight for awhile, because for a long time
no one replied to my question. Just happened to check it again,
and notice there has been some activity. So I have some more
comments/qustions.


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As far as your question regarding people who can't be hypnotized...
Let's just start by saying Everyone Can Be Hypnotized. It is a huge misconception that people can not be. Hypnosis is a normal process and state of mind.

I have never seen any proof that everyone can be hypnotized. How
on earth could you prove that? The only way would be to hypnotize
everyone in the world, so I got to say, I think that point is without
proof that everyone can be hypnotized.

I know when I was interested in it, I really did want to be hypnotized
and I fully cooperated with successful hypnotist, but never did get
fully under.

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People can keep themselves out of these states (hypnosis) either willingly
or unknowingly.


I must be one that kept myself out unknowingly, because I wanted
to go under. I thought it would be nice to be able to have post
hypnotic guidance for various endeavors, like maybe shooting better.
I trusted the hypnotist, and knew he was good, had seen him work
with others. So I must have been unknowingly keeping myself out
of hypnosis, by this above verbiage, but isn't that the same thing
as not being able to be hypnotized? Hey, if I can keep myself out
of without even knowing it, while wanting to do it, I would think
that is a pretty good working definition of not being able to be hypnotized.


Have you ever had a client that you could not hypnotize?

How do you know someone is under?

I have had people fool me back when I did this sort of thing, and they
just went along with it as a lark. Others though really did go under.

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 Post subject: Re: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:25 pm 
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Stuck-N-Kali wrote:
And when we get to the range and every target looks like it's the size of a trash can lid, and with our brains in auto-pilot it's dead-pair after dead-pair, what state are we likey in?


you are describing what is commonly referred to as the Zone State,
studies have now proven that Elite Athletes make there best shots from the Alpha and Theta states of mind... you can train toward this... but it takes practice and the ability to shut down the chatter of your conscious mind

BTW: Light Hypnosis is also the Alpha State, Deep Hypnosis is also the Theta State

so by nature of what I offer and teach, all my clients learn how to access the Zone State quickly, easily, and frequently

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 Post subject: Re: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2017 3:41 pm 
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DevilsAdvocate wrote:
I haven't been back to this sight for awhile, because for a long time
no one replied to my question. Just happened to check it again,
and notice there has been some activity. So I have some more
comments/qustions.


Quote:
As far as your question regarding people who can't be hypnotized...
Let's just start by saying Everyone Can Be Hypnotized. It is a huge misconception that people can not be. Hypnosis is a normal process and state of mind.

I have never seen any proof that everyone can be hypnotized. How
on earth could you prove that? The only way would be to hypnotize
everyone in the world, so I got to say, I think that point is without
proof that everyone can be hypnotized.

I know when I was interested in it, I really did want to be hypnotized
and I fully cooperated with successful hypnotist, but never did get
fully under.

Quote:
People can keep themselves out of these states (hypnosis) either willingly
or unknowingly.


I must be one that kept myself out unknowingly, because I wanted
to go under. I thought it would be nice to be able to have post
hypnotic guidance for various endeavors, like maybe shooting better.
I trusted the hypnotist, and knew he was good, had seen him work
with others. So I must have been unknowingly keeping myself out
of hypnosis, by this above verbiage, but isn't that the same thing
as not being able to be hypnotized? Hey, if I can keep myself out
of without even knowing it, while wanting to do it, I would think
that is a pretty good working definition of not being able to be hypnotized.


Have you ever had a client that you could not hypnotize?

How do you know someone is under?

I have had people fool me back when I did this sort of thing, and they
just went along with it as a lark. Others though really did go under.



I can easily say that everyone can be hypnotized because of that fact of what hypnosis is... Light Hypnosis is the Alpha State, Deep Hypnosis is the Theta State. Feel free to learn more about the Alpha and Theta brain wave states on line. So, yes, all humans enter the Alpha and Theta states... at minimum every time they wake up and go to sleep, but also every time they nap, every time they day dream, meditate or relax for a bit. When doing Hypnosis a person is just more deliberate about entering these states of mind.
The problem experienced when someone "can't be hypnotized" is no different then what happens when one "can't go to sleep" or "can't fall back to sleep if I wake up in the middle of the night." It is exaggerated with hypnosis if a person is on guard, has misconceptions about hypnosis, is fearful of what they may experience in hypnosis, paranoid of what they may say or be told, and other such fears that would keep someone anxious rather then able to relax.

As far as your experience with "not going under"... it would be important for you to redefine hypnosis, and not to be looking for or waiting for a state of mind that you are calling "under"... start by paying close attention to how you feel when you go to sleep at night or wake in the morning... you will then become more familiar with the Alpha and Theta state... and won't be waiting for some "under" state that doesn't exist.

Yes, I have worked with people who have struggled with going into hypnosis... but they were doing exactly what you are... expecting to experience something that is not accurate... or they had fears and misconceptions keeping them on guard. I created my audio: 20 Minute Hypnosis For Transformation for this exact reason. With this audio my new clients can experience hypnosis from the comfort of their own home, they can listen and follow along while feeling safe, and they soon learn what hypnosis really is... they then let their guard down about it and we can then have fun putting hypnosis to good use for the change they want.

Hope this all helps :)

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 Post subject: Re: What if the student does not respond to hypnosis?
PostPosted: Tue May 16, 2017 6:15 pm 
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I have heard that Harry Houdini was the worlds greatest hypnotist, is that true?


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