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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:50 am 
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Are these shells any good?



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 Post subject: Re: Rio shells?
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If I could get a steady supply of them I would shoot them all the time.

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 Post subject: Re: Rio shells?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 11:59 am 
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The reason I ask is beacuse able is selling them for $53.5 per case and I am wondering abou their quailty and if they can be reloaded.

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If I could get a steady supply of them I would shoot them all the time.


Jeff....

My FFL just completed a large order of Rios. Mostly 12s, some 20s and a few 16s

12s and 20s about $50 per flat delivered. 16s about $65

Don't know if its too late, but I could try to get him to tack on some for you.

Let me know.

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 Post subject: Re: Rio shells?
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I meant if I could get a steady supply at Cabelas, that's the only place I buy ammo.

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 Post subject: Re: Rio shells?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:10 pm 
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They sell these at my club, I've never seen them anywhere else. Haven't seen any malfunctions from the guys I shoot with that use them. The club sells them for $5/box.

Are they any dirtier than other loads?


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Luke95 wrote:
The reason I ask is beacuse able is selling them for $53.5 per case and I am wondering abou their quailty and if they can be reloaded.

The Rios I have used in the past were not reloadable. The Remington Gun Clubs (from what I hear) are a better deal if that's the way you want to go.

The top sporting 1oz are very clean in my O/U.

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PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 12:41 pm 
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I shoot them sometimes for league shoots when I am too lazy to reload and have friends that shoot a lot of them. I do see a few more weak sounding shots from them than any other factory ammo than Kemans (which I won't shoot at all) especially in the winter. You should be able to get Fed Top Guns, Estates or Rem Gun Clubs for just about the same price.

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I am told that Kemen is made by Rio/UEE

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Kemen , Diana , Wolf , CCC....Rio....all made at the UEE factory in Spain.

Rio's also made in a recently finished factory here in the USA.

I have shot 10,000+. BUT note: I do not like their high brass shells. And I doubt the hulls are reloadable.

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 Post subject: Re: Rio shells?
PostPosted: Fri Jun 24, 2011 1:14 pm 
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I like the Rio's, particularly the Top Sporting. Very good cartridge for the money. For reloading, I believe the Rio hulls are straight walled like Federals. Primer fit could be an issue when reloading but should take Federal plastic hull recipes. I think one is approaching the break even point when reloading any shell at this price point, i.e. is it worth the time to reload a shell and only save $1 per box? Just a thought....Eric


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My SCTP skeet team had problems with shooting Rios in Browning Gold semi-autos. They would not eject, preventing a second shot on doubles. In some cases, getting the action open was difficult as the hulls were really stuck. We switched to Federals and had not a single failure.

As for reloading Rio hulls, I suppose you might get a reload or two from them, but conventional wisdom is to dump them in the trash can. Use Remington Gun Club's if you want to reload.

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 Post subject: Re: Rio shells?
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My SCTP skeet team had problems with shooting Rios in Browning Gold semi-autos. They would not eject, preventing a second shot on doubles...

We sell alot of them at our gun club. I've gone almost exclusively to the 7/8 oz. 12 ga. load--vel. somewhere around 1330-1350 fps. The have VERY little recoil and have never failed to work in my Beretta 390s EXCEPT for a batch that had primer issues. I guess that they were high primers as they failed to fire but would always fire if rechambered and shot a second time. From what I've been told they are the "middle quality" brand between Diana on the low end and Kemen on the high end. FWIW, I've never had a problem with Kemen's. I don't find the Rios to be particularly dirty, nor the shot particularly soft. I've patterned a bunch of them using Dr. Jone's "shotgun-insight" program--they pattern no differently (worse) than any other cartridge that I patterned with the same chokes. I don't know about reloading them. The reason that I use them is so that I won't have to reload.

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Curly-Nohair wrote:
I am told that Kemen is made by Rio/UEE


Correct, and many are made in McEwen, TN

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You might want to search for posts by Republican aka Mokeman3. He has done considerable research in finding ways to reload Rios and the other Euro-type hulls.


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I shoot Rio's almost exclusively now -- the 1oz 1210 and 1-1/8th oz 1200's -- very clean, very reliable. I buy them 25 or 30 cases at a time.

When I run out of Rem Gun Clubs for my 20, I'll buy Rios for it too.

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PostPosted: Sat Jun 25, 2011 1:54 pm 
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IF you want to reload, get the gun clubs; otherwise the Rios and Kemens, in my area, are cheaper than the wally world promo crap, and I can get a choice

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 Post subject: Re: Rio shells?
PostPosted: Tue Jun 28, 2011 5:52 pm 
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I shoot Rios all the time, and love them. They don't really hold a crimp that well is what I have herd so they probable are not that good for reloading. If you want a re-loadable shell get the gun clubs or the sts line of shells from Remington, that is all I use for reloading. Cabelas has the gun clubs for 60 bucks a case right now on sale, and if you live close to a Cabelas store, they will ship the ammo to the store for free and you just have to go pick them up.




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