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Author:  sernv99 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 3:47 pm ]
Post subject:  A400 20 gauge opinions

I got to handle a Beretta non-KO A400 20 gauge at my local gun shop yesterday. 28" barrel.....it felt ok, a 30" barreled gun would be a dream high volume 20 gauge gun. I think with a mag cap weight and maybe a heavier extended choke (if there exists one), it could help make the gun less whippy for me.

Has anyone bought the KO version and put some rounds through it? I would be curious about your feedback on it, especially with field loads and if the KO helps alleviate recoil.

Author:  hattles [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 4:26 pm ]
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sernv99 wrote:
I got to handle a Beretta non-KO A400 20 gauge at my local gun shop yesterday. 28" barrel.....it felt ok, a 30" barreled gun would be a dream high volume 20 gauge gun. I think with a mag cap weight and maybe a heavier extended choke (if there exists one), it could help make the gun less whippy for me.

Has anyone bought the KO version and put some rounds through it? I would be curious about your feedback on it, especially with field loads and if the KO helps alleviate recoil.


I had not realized Beretta was offering the A400 (Action) in 20ga until now. Haven't seen one but I see that Joel Etchen guns has them in stock $1250 + $75 for the Kick-off.

If the KO helps alleviates recoil? Of course not!
The test I read on the 20 ga A400 KO is that it kicks like a 10 gauge. I'd steer clear of it. :wink:
http://www.recoiltest.com//a40020gabere ... slikeamule
:lol:

Author:  BarryD [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 5:12 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A400 20 gauge opinions

What do you want it for?

How light/whippy is it? What would you compare it with? Have yet to see one in person.

Author:  roscoe71 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 8:13 pm ]
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wow ive handeled one in a 28 inch barrell and i didnt find it wippy at all, but thats me and everybody is different. it sure felt good im glad beretta is giving us a 20 gauge option, will we ever see a 20 bore versamax? or a maxus or even the new a-5? probley not so i give beretta a big 2 thumbs up {hs#

Author:  sernv99 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 9:24 pm ]
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They make a 30" barrel version for the international market.

http://www.beretta.com/Long-guns/Field- ... =1&id=1508

Author:  colth_00 [ Mon Dec 10, 2012 10:36 pm ]
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I didn't think that the US would have them yet?

Author:  Garbi [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:22 am ]
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This gun is way too light for anything I'd want to use it for, especially a dove gun. The KO can only do so much and will certainly not be able to do much on a gun this light. I'd love to see it in 30" and 1.5 pounds heavier.

Author:  BarryD [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:38 am ]
Post subject:  Re: A400 20 gauge opinions

Adding weight to a gun is easy. Taking it away isn't.

I want a climbing gun, provided that it handles well. No interest in the KO here, or in shooting doves with a bottom feeder.

How's the balance, sernv99?

Author:  Garbi [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:53 am ]
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BarryD wrote:
Adding weight to a gun is easy. Taking it away isn't.

I want a climbing gun, provided that it handles well. No interest in the KO here, or in shooting doves with a bottom feeder.

How's the balance, sernv99?



That's the key, I've yet to find a gun that light that will handle we'll. It would be like shooting with a yardstick. If you're climbing you don't want unnecessary weight but you need enough to make sure you actually hit something. Otherwise it's not hunting, it's hiking.

Author:  BarryD [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 11:58 am ]
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How light is it? I haven't seen any real numbers, or opinions.

That's why I keep asking.

I don't believe a 6 lb. gun can't be shot well. I know some people think they can't shoot them, but I have no problem. Subgauge London Best game guns have always been from 5 3/4 to 6 1/4 lbs., too.

But there's such thing as too whippy, and even too light. There's a lot more to it than that, though.

Author:  Garbi [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:07 pm ]
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It's 5 lbs without the kickoff.

Author:  Dr Duk [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 12:54 pm ]
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The KO works very well on my A-400s.
I don't know why it would not work on a 20 ga.
I thought the Xplor was too light until I added a end cap wt from Brileys.
My Xcel has NO recoil with the KO and 1 1/8 oz load.

Author:  Garbi [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:27 pm ]
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I'm not saying it won't work I'm just saying that adding a pound on a gun is going to have a much larger effect than the KO will.

Author:  BarryD [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 1:54 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A400 20 gauge opinions

Where's the balance point?

Author:  sernv99 [ Tue Dec 11, 2012 3:37 pm ]
Post subject:  Re: A400 20 gauge opinions

BarryD wrote:
Adding weight to a gun is easy. Taking it away isn't.

I want a climbing gun, provided that it handles well. No interest in the KO here, or in shooting doves with a bottom feeder.

How's the balance, sernv99?


Balance is in the middle, IMO but with the weight, it makes a fine "walk a lot, shoot little" gun. For a high volume gun as in South America, this gun would suck unless weight was added. A 30" barrel version (field or sporting version) would be ideal and then just add a mag cap weight and it should feel better, at least for me.

Author:  B319 [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:06 pm ]
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Called Joel Etchens and was told that one they weighed without KO was 5# 11oz.

Author:  Garbi [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 5:10 pm ]
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That's a good sign, Beretta has always understated their gun weights on their website and it looks like this one is no exception. Should be very shootable with the KO.

Author:  BarryD [ Thu Dec 13, 2012 11:02 pm ]
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I once applied for a job where I would be putting weight spec's on gunmakers' websites as my primary responsibility. They ended up hiring someone else, because when they gave me a drug test, they told me that I didn't do NEARLY enough crack, to do the job. :wink:

5 lbs. sounds too light for a 20 Gauge gas gun with a walnut stock. 5 lbs. 11 oz. sounds much more plausible -- and like a shootable climbing gun if balanced right. :)

Author:  stockranger [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 4:49 am ]
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gun weights are wishful thinking for the most part. I've only owned 2 guns that lived up to their listed weights. a tikka t-3 and a franchi 48. every other gun was obese by 6 to 8 ounces atleast. You do not need a mag weight. 28 inch with ext choke and then add some weight inside a copper pipe in the magtube can add between 6 and 10 oz on problem, cost you 5 bucks....

Author:  BarryD [ Thu Dec 20, 2012 9:35 am ]
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No plug required in my state, so inside the mag tube is actually valuable real estate. :)

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