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--><img src=http://www.ezboard.com/intl/aenglish/images/emoticons/smile.gif ALT=":)"><!--EZCODE EMOTICON END--> Dr. D I answered your other post so I will answer this one.. I was a gun smith for over 30 years, so when I look at a gun I might look at it different then you. I look at how it is built. If it has nice wood and ingraving all the better. When my son-in-law asked me last year what to buy, and knowing they didn't have much money I told him to go to Dicks Sporting Goods and get him a Verona. They are $599.00 and built better then some costing twice that. They have nice wood, silver reciver, and nice ingraving. They also have the largest hinge pins of any gun I have seen, and they are replaceable. I think it is made just for them. Gander Mountin sells the same gun with a oil finish instead of the lacquer finish for $799.00. Easy to get parts and chokes for. Go look at one. Will make you a good all around gun. Dave <p></p><i></i>