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 Post subject: best retriever program for a new guy to follow?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:13 am 
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while this is a bit late, i picked up a pointing lab at the end of november and hes 6.5mo's old now.

my breeder recommended i just be easy with the pup and dont do much formal training til he was around 6 months old. hes had a good amount of bird exposure and ive been in the field with him at least 6 days a week every week since bringing him home. recently though hes beginning to disobey me, not recalling well when i toss bumpers/etc. so i started some basic obedience stuff and have been doing it about a week and a half.

the thing is... the more i think about it, the more i want to just skip the whoa work and abandon the whole pointing endeavor in lieu of maximizing his retrieving potential. im going to be doing a lot of waterfowling next year and honestly pointing would just be an added bonus as opposed to a necessity.

ive been following much of julie knutsons book "training the pointing labrador" but since the decision to shift my focus a bit ive been wanting to pick up something purely retriever oriented.

any suggestions for a beginner friendly program that would cover the majority of what i need to build an exceptional retriever in the field/blind? would prefer dvd's since im a simpleton and would rather watch video demonstrations but im open to books/etc as well.

been looking at fowl dawg's, smartworks, and mike lardy's TRT stuff.

from what ive read lardy's material is hard to understand for someone without a backround in training.

smartworks ive read great stuff about but its a pretty good investment for the DVD/books $$$ wise, and seems a little daunting for a beginner like myself since there is so much material.

fowl dawg's i havent heard much about but is appealing.


i'm open to any and all suggestions. i really just want to train the best hunting companion i possibly can. one that i can be proud to take my friends/family out hunting with. at the moment i have no intentions of trying my hand at field trials but i wouldnt say the door's closed depending on how things go.

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 Post subject: Re: best retriever program for a new guy to follow?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 9:45 am 
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I like books!! Try "Game Dog" by Richard A. Wolters. If the dog is what you say he is, this book will make him a champ. (And you'll be a heck of a trainer.) Forget the DVD's and You Tube. Get the book and get the job done.


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 Post subject: Re: best retriever program for a new guy to follow?
PostPosted: Fri Mar 10, 2017 10:02 am 
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6 months is the time to start a basic obedience class and a basic obedience class will have your dog paying attention to you in about 8-10 weeks. Check with your vet to see if classes are available in your area.
There are two videos on training pointing dogs that also include retriever training and they are:
The Perfect Start, The Perfect Finish and Training Pointing dogs by George Hickox. Two similar, but different methods and I prefer The Perfect Start/Finish.
Also, there are hunting trials that would put you in contact with people of similar interests.
Good Luck and have fun.


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 Post subject: Re: best retriever program for a new guy to follow?
PostPosted: Mon Mar 13, 2017 10:28 pm 
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First, identify what it is you want to use your dog for (upland, waterfowl, or both). Being you bought a "pointing Lab", I assume you want to hunt upland birds primarily. Make a list of goals you would ultimately like to achieve with your retriever and list them here with your question. It will be easier for others too answer your now rather open ended question if you get more specific about your expectations for the dog.

Cheers,
Irishwhistler☘️


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 Post subject: Re: best retriever program for a new guy to follow?
PostPosted: Mon Jun 19, 2017 4:31 pm 
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Hillman's Training a Retriever puppy. I used this for my last dog and she was steady, doing stand alone singles at 4 months of age. best part of it she did not even know she was being trained. Its very fun for the dog, but yet they learn. Don't wait till 6 months, you will be amazed how much you can teach in that amount time.


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 Post subject: Re: best retriever program for a new guy to follow?
PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2017 10:57 pm 
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The book you have is good for what you want. just skip the whoa training. dont be in a rush and dont dont dont say commands the dog doesnt understand especially when you cant enforce the command. Obedience is the foundation and is most of what you will use waterfowling. most, but not all of the marking drills the programs do are really just for the hunt games and just a bunch of crap for someone that is just a hunter. get him obedient, steady and gun broke. Train for basic blinds if you like.

However, I was never interested in upland but now am just for the fact that i get more time watching the dog and they love it.




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