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 Post subject: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 1:40 am 
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Hi,

Can you guys please steer me in the right direction?
I'm looking for a very light weight shotgun to use for grouse & pheasant.
I assume 20 gauge and 26" barrels are needed to be light...
I'd prefer an O/U just because that's what I'm used to but would certainly consider a semi auto if it was lighter.
I spend hours/miles hiking the forest (mountains) for grouse without a dog and hours in more open terrain for pheasants usually with a dog, and a lighter gun would much appreciated at the end of the day.
Hopefully I could also go longer/farther with something lighter than the 8lb O/U my old bones are currently hauling around.
Thanks for your advice and your time!




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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 2:21 am 
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http://www.franchiusa.com/fenice-shotgu ... ns-section

http://www.benelliusa.com/ultra-light-s ... ns-section

http://www.beretta.com/en/686-ultralight/

http://gueriniusa.com/shotguns/magnus-light/


I'm a fan of light field guns. I own a 686 UL and would highly recommend it if your looking for a 12 ga O/U. Beretta lists it as under 6lbs but mine is a few ounces over. My kid shoots a 686 SP1 in 20ga and it's an ounce over 6lbs

Guys will be along shortly pointing out that the light guns have excessive recoil. I don't think they hunt Grouse much


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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Sun Oct 25, 2015 10:25 pm 
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Thanks for the info.
Yes I understand that generally the lighter the gun the stronger the recoil but I expect to carry it a lot and shoot it a little so that's ok.

So far we have (weights as advertised unless noted):
Bertetta A400 Xplor Action no k/o 12g 26" at 6.8lbs (weighed), still need weight of 20g model please.
Beretta 686 Ultralight O/U 12g, 26" at 5.95 lbs
Franchi Fenice 20g, 26" at 5.6 lbs
Yildiz SPZM O/U 20g, 26" 5.6 lbs (weighed)
Browning Cynergy Feather O/U 20g, 26" at 5.lbs
Franchi 48AL 20g, 24" at 5.5 lbs
Benelli Ultra Light 20g, 24" at 5.2

Any more lightweight options or favorites?


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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Mon Oct 26, 2015 10:16 pm 
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I wish I could find this older Cynergy Feather 20g as it's listed at only 4lbs 14oz.....
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail-historic.asp?cid=013&tid=274&fid=014B&cattype=013274
Maybe a used one will turn up sometime... I think it would be a reasonable "carry all day-shoot a little" gun.
Anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 7:41 pm 
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The lightest common upland gun is probably the al48 in 28gwhich is in the 5lb range. That said, most people don't shoot light guns well. Any normal 20g these days should be light enough to shoot well and carry well.


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PostPosted: Wed Oct 28, 2015 9:20 pm 
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I don't like a 24" barrel, so i bought a Montefeltro 20 ga 26" barrel. It is about 5.8# and carries very well. I think anything much lighter is going to get on the too light side. I think I would look at any of the guns that are slightly under 6# as a good weight to carry and shoot.


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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Tue Nov 03, 2015 11:23 pm 
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There is the Beretta 28 gauge A400 that is right about 5# as well

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PostPosted: Wed Nov 04, 2015 9:49 am 
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Benelli Legacy 28, 4.9 lb but feels even lighter. Also Beretta AS 20EL, about the same if you can even find one.

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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Sun Nov 08, 2015 9:30 pm 
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Thanks for the suggestions.
For what's worth I think I'll stay with a 20 gauge.

I'm not sure why the newer Cynergy Feathers are a pound heavier than the discontinued ones, might be a god reason ;) but I'm looking for this one:
http://www.browning.com/products/catalog/firearms/detail-historic.asp?cid=013&tid=274&fid=014B&cattype=013274
Item # 013274605
Or
Item # 013274604

Anyone know where I could find one???

Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Wed Jan 13, 2016 10:26 pm 
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In 20 ga O/U, I have a Cesar Guerini, Browning Superposed and Beretta SP1. They would all fit the bill, but the Beretta is the lightest. Be careful though, they fit differently. I wish I could shoot a Browning well but I can't. More drop, neutral cast. I shoot the Guerini the best. You maybe different.
I can get a SxS even lighter, find them quicker and prefer them on grouse.
That said, I am finding it very hard to stay away from the Benelli Ultralight. It's the first time i have been in love with a SA since my first Rem 1100. I keep telling myself I don't need another gun.


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Benelli Legacy 28 ga with 26" barrel weighs in at 4.9 lb or less.

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I'd go with 28" O/U barrels, especially for a gun that light, to promote some kind of swing and follow through.


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people that complain about the swing of short barrel guns just need to retrain there trigger finger then they shoot goooood


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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Tue Jan 19, 2016 8:16 pm 
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Phased1 wrote:
I assume 20 gauge and 26" barrels are needed to be light...
I'd prefer an O/U just because that's what I'm used to but would certainly consider a semi auto if it was lighter.


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 Post subject: Re: What is the lightest upland gun available?
PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:33 pm 
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I was always a fan of double guns, especially SXS's. I now mostly use a Mossberg SA20 as it weighs in at 6 pounds. I am recently retired and have found the trails longer and the guns heavier. Also the last good grouse season I had one would get up I would shoot twice with a lightweight 28 double and then another would get up ussually offering a better shot. Its more fun to miss three times than twice.
While I am not necessarily recommending the SA20 there are other SA's recommended.
A lightweight SA has a receiver length such that a 26" barrel is closer to a double with 29-30" barrels. When you go to a lightweight you have to discipline yourself to settle on target. They can be more squirrelly.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:10 pm 
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steveziv wrote:
I'd go with 28" O/U barrels, especially for a gun that light, to promote some kind of swing and follow through.


+1. My 28". Beretta 686 20 gauge Onyx weighs 6 lbs. It was my goto grouse and clays gun for over twenty years.

I hope this helps.

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PostPosted: Mon Mar 14, 2016 4:56 pm 
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My first twenty o/u was a Beretta Whitewing with 26" tubes. I never did get to the point where I could swing the gun smoothly. I finally sold it in frustration.

Fast forward 15 years. I guess my memory dimmed. Based on some very good reviews I recently purchased a Yildiz 20 SPZ ME with 28" tubes at 5.7#. Same dea,l too whippy and a lot of over swing.

I added 7 oz. of lead to the forend and 7 oz to the butt stock. Amazing difference! Still well balanced and much smoother swing and less recoil. At 6 1/2# still light enough to carry a long way. Of course it is no clays gun, but it is a very functional upland field gun. BTW, both barrels shoot to the same POI and slightly above point of aim. Better than the Whitewing which shot low for me.

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My purchase this year will probably be a 12 guage CZ pump 612 field. Suppose to weigh 6.25 pounds.

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Don't forget the Weatherby SA-08. In 28 gauge, it is a very nice carry gun.




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