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 Post subject: Baker SxS R Model
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:26 pm 
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I have tryed too look all over for some info on my Baker and finally have come to you experts to try and figure out it's Year. I have a numbers matching 12 Guage 30" Barrel R... Serial 3871... According to my gunsmith he put's it at between 90-95%...

Can any of you help me out with any info on this great looking shotgun?


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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
PostPosted: Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:59 pm 
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The A grade became the R grade in 1906

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Courtesy of Researcher and others, lots of information here
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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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OK, I do have the dog(no Bird) engraved on the side. Looks like the 3 Pin Lock Plate on that site.
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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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If there is no 'F' before the SN, the gun was made prior to Baker Gun & Forging selling their gun business to H.& D. Folsom in 1919.

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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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Can you ID these by the Serial Number? There is no letters what so ever in the serial number, just 3871..


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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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No.
If it's a dog without the bird, it should be a B and would have "damascus twist" barrels

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R would have crolle damascus or Fluid Steel barrels

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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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Here are a few pictures of it. Not the best light out in the garage.

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Could never get a not fuzzy picture of the top of the barrels.
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So I am looking at a R with Fluid Steel Barrels?


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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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It appears to be a R. Are there any marks on the bottom of the barrels just forward of the flats? Krupp, LLH, or ACL in a circle?

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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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No... The barrel is clean from any other stamping's besides the serial number.. I also just sent you back an email with some more pictures I just took of the gun.


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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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The gun is not an R Grade. Wrong engraving, wrong barrel material, wrong serial no. range. It is a B Grade .


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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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This gun IS a B, but is not GT's gun which has fluid steel barrels and has been re-cased

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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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revdoc, the redone gun in question is from the A and B serial range and sports the specific A and B engraving. It is far from the R grade serial range of 200,000 plus or sometimes for a very few gun in the 39-46,000 range. If the gun in question actually has fluid steel barrels, the barrels are an aftermarket item. It may be possible twist steel barrels have been blued, too. The owner might provide a letter stamped on the forend lug on the barrels. Some guns are stamped there with a T or D or S.


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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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Lug has an H


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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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This is from Hallquist's and Hardin's article in the 1997 Guns Illustrated
PLEASE NOTE A and B production started in 1892, not 1897.

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The meaning of 'H' is uncertain, but could be "Homotensile" Steel

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Is this for sale?????


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 Post subject: Re: Baker SxS R Model
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Everything is for sale..... If you want to buy it...shoot me an email gregorytidey@gmail.com


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