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 Post subject: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 12:52 am 
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Is Kent Still making this load? I can't find it. What's the deal?




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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 10:48 am 
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Oh man, now you've got me worried. I just checked Mac's Prairie wings where I usually buy it and they don't have it listed any more. I also checked ballistic supply and they are asking 25.00 a box (for ten shells) it usually goes for around 11.50 - 14.00 a box around here. Whats up with that? I can also find it at Sportsman wharehouse for around 13.00 a box at times. good luck.

http://www.balisticproducts.com/

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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 3:50 pm 
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Like I said I bought it all.


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Sun Sep 24, 2006 11:37 pm 
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What are you asking for ten boxes of 16 gauge # 5?


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:34 am 
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rer,

I'm looking for the 1 1/4oz. #6. I just got off the phone with Kent and they said they're out of that load right now. They sold all they had and are waiting on more. What people ordered exceeded their expectations. If anyone knows where to get any please let me know.


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:30 am 
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There will be no more T/M produced for the 06/07 season. What you find on the shelf is all there is. And the projected price is set to more than double.


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:54 pm 
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BUMMER. well, I can tell ya none of the local sporting stores in Eastern Washington helped 'buy out' the current supply. There has been none around since last hunting season.
Oh well, back to Bismuth -not too big a deal. Just don't make me have to use steel -thank you.
Ross


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 1:57 pm 
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TRy here. The price IS going up quickly.

http://www.firearmservice.com/shopsite_ ... age10.html


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 4:24 pm 
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I bought them out too along with BPI at least they told me that was all they had. Under $12.00 a box from BPI. Bought all the #6's and #5's I could get along with all the 1 1/16th oz they had. One of them still had some of the 1 oz. load left. I also got all the 12 ga. 2 3/4" 1 1/4 oz. #5's and #6's along with 3" 1 1/2 oz. plus some 20 ga. 2 3/4" and 3". UPS brought it to me today. Took a good hour to get it all in and put away. I'm set for a very long time. :lol:


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:14 pm 
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Apparently BPI held some 16 # 5 back and bumped the price to 25.00 a box (ten/box) man what a RIP-OFF. I just ordered some #5 through http://www.firearmservice.com/shopsite_ ... index.html
for 14.50 a box. when you include the shipping that is even getting a little pricey.
Ross


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 7:19 pm 
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Chico,

http://www.firearmservice.com/shopsite_ ... index.html

seems to still have the #6 1 0z loads only. they are 4.25 a box if you buy 5+ boxes. That is really the only thing going I can find. If you live near some decent sporting outlets maybe the yellow pages will provide something better...
Ross


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:35 pm 
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Thanks rer. I just ordered some Bismuth 12ga 2 3/4" 1 1/4 #5's. I figured I'd try it and I don't know what I'm gonna do about my 16's. Have ya'll tried Bismuth?


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 Post subject: Re: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 8:49 pm 
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chico wrote:
... Have ya'll tried Bismuth?


Oh yeah, plenty -- it shoots damn near as nice as lead. It works good. it is a tad bit brittle and I've found some very small (malable) slivers of bismuth on rare occasions in my duck meat...but I would shoot it anyday over steel.
Actually you have a few more options open for shooting bismith from your 16 gauge as you can find it in more shot sizes than tungten matrix.
I just really like tungsten matrix -- probably all goes back to a really nice shot I made somewhere...sometime.

I just got an e-mail from that 'firearmservice' place and they regretted to imform me they were sold out of my order...

Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr A5Mag12 must be on the level here- - - - -


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:04 pm 
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Last month, I bought all the 1 oz. #6s T/Ms that I could afford from Ballistics Products. They worked just fine on close range teal, after I changed my recoil spring to the "light load" setting and left my magazine tube wet with CLP.

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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 9:11 pm 
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Just for grins I tapped a #2 Bismuth pellet with a tack hammer. It shattered.

The stuff is brittle but seems to hold together pretty well under acceleration. I think the slivers your seeing are from bone strikes. I don't think it breaks bones as well as other shot.

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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Mon Sep 25, 2006 11:47 pm 
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Yeah Jeff,
the bismith slivers I've found in both pheasant and duck are very thin -- thicker than 'tin foil', but definitly noticable as metal flakes. Nothing like biting onto a pellet, and the flakes easily bend when you happen to bite onto them. I also attribute them to a contact with the bismuth pellet and bone. I've also found some 'metal' discoloration in some meat around a pellet path, (I take the time to personally examine each pellet path in my pheasants and ducks to verify that there are no feathers and shot left in the meat I am cooking) with bismith.

Large steel shot does indeed seem to pass entirely through most birds I shoot, but the thought of even one...just one, seel pellet on one of my old molars makes me cringe.

I noticed the big difference in shot when I was following up on cripples. I would shoot over and over again at a mallard swimming away with steel.....with tungsten matrix and bismith I would shoot the cripple and it would be noticably 'swatted' on the water. And yes, hevi-shot would be more like hitting the cripple with a mallet.


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 6:08 am 
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One thing I learned about shooting swimmers while sea duck hunting. Go with the smallest shot you have and get a dense pattern. Head and neck are the only vulnerable areas. Sitting low in the water with wings folded makes a duck about as durable as the Monitor.

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 Post subject: Re: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 1:46 pm 
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rer wrote:
Apparently BPI held some 16 # 5 back and bumped the price to 25.00 a box (ten/box) man what a RIP-OFF.
Ross
Yeah they show some 26 dollar a box 2 3/4" 20 ga, as well. I got the 3"12 ga. for under 17 dollars a box now they show a 40 dollar price. Most of whats left is some 1 oz. 16 ga. and the fast loadings in 12 ga. I started to buy some of the 1 oz. 16 ga. shells but I have a little over 7 of the 25 box cases of 16 ga. . I was wanting a bunch more of the 20 ga. shells and the 2 3/4" 12 ga. 1 1/4 oz. 1330 fps shells. I wasn't going to by any of the 3" 12 ga. but they had 56 boxes of 1 1/2 oz. #5's and 10 boxes of #3's for $16.95 a box so I went ahead and bought them.

I hope the price of this stuff will come back down. I was thrilled to say the least when I found the 16 ga. loads a couple years ago for such a good price. If you can call $1.20 a shell a good price. I would really hate to see this stuff get priced out of the market.

Humm,,, I could dump them 3" magnums out and load up close to 1000 rounds of 16 ga....


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 2:29 pm 
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I sure hope it comes down too. I'm sure Kent is looking at other metals that might work in the matrix pellets. My understanding is that the comodity price of tungsten has jumped from $3.00/ lb. to over $15.00/lb. What with all the manufacturers putting out tungsten based products it will price itself out of the market or someone will fing new sources of the stuff. Hope we all can hold on till it sorts out. By the way, just bought some TM 1.5 oz/3inch for $36.00/ box(10). Ouch, can't afford to miss. GJ


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 Post subject: re: Kent Tungsten Matrix 16ga 1 1/4 oz. #6
PostPosted: Tue Sep 26, 2006 4:14 pm 
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The norm in the retail gunshops around here has been $22.50 for a box of 10 bismuth loads for the last couple of years....but this is DC and everything is expensive here.

Loading my own bismuth got the cost down to about $1.05 a shell, but it's up from that now.

I'm looking for a silver lining, it may keep some folks from flinging shot at the real high birds.

Jeff




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