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 Post subject: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 3:24 pm 
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My LGS has an extremely nice Model 11 20 ga sportsman, I'd guess it to be 85% or better to my uneducated eye, it's definitely not refinished. How rare are these and what would be a ballpark value? They're proud of it at 599. I like it but I'm not too sure about the price.




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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Fri Jun 02, 2017 6:04 pm 
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I'm sure someone will come along and say where they are you can get them all day long for 200.00.
If it is clean I would go 450.00 here in central New York, there doesn't seem to be very many around. They are excellent guns.


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 8:01 am 
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I would be more comfortable at 450 that's for sure. It is one of the nicest 11's I have ever seen, looks to have been shot very little.


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:07 am 
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There were 16,753 20-gauge "Sportsman" made up through February 1938, when Remington dropped the separate serial number sequence for the 20-gauge "Sportsman" and went to using receivers serial numbered right along with the 20-gauge Model 11s. Model 11 20-gauge serial numbers began at 1000000 in 1930, and were at the 1045xxx range in February 1938, when the "Sportsman" began being numbered with the Model 11. My 20-gauge "Sportsman" has a January 1948 barrel code and is in the 1093xxx serial number range. So, probably the best we can say is there were about 110,000 20-gauge Model 11/"Sportsman" combined produced.

We need more information to even begin to zero in on a price. Is it an early "Sportsman" with the three-bird roll-stamping or the later style with just a single bird on either sided? Is the barrel plain, solid rib or ventilated rib? It appears to me that the 28-inch full choke barrel is far and away the most common. With the present day craze for long barrels if you stumble on one with the rare 30-inch or even rarer 32-inch barrel the price can skyrocket. For me a 26-inch improved cylinder or SKEET choked barrel is more useful.

The serial number and pictures would help a lot. Not likely to get a nice one for $215 like I did back in 2004, now that the economy is back on the rise. The same pawn shop where I bought mine recently had a plain barrel Model 11 20-gauge with $400 on the price tag.


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:53 am 
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I always check Gunbroker for prices. Here's one for $400. Compare it to the one you are looking at.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/651172875


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Sat Jun 03, 2017 9:56 am 
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Thanks for the information, I will try to get back over there and get pics and serial data. IIRC it had the one bird receiver.


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 9:56 am 
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Rudolph31 wrote:
I always check Gunbroker for prices. Here's one for $400. Compare it to the one you are looking at.

http://www.gunbroker.com/item/651172875


With that after market Poly-Choke that is more like a $175 gun!!


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Sun Jun 04, 2017 11:29 am 
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If it was a 12 gauge, I'd agree. But 20's seem to go for more.


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 1:08 pm 
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In my area of New York..........it would be on the LGS gun rack for less than a week!


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 6:55 pm 
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I've been cruising GI this afternoon, and I'm blown away by the asking prices on these old "square-back" Remingtons. I bought this solid rib 12-gauge "Sportsman" this spring for $275 out the door --

viewtopic.php?f=55&t=454632

I'd be hard pressed to pay this much for a 28-inch full, but this is a pretty nice one --

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f ... =100855059

Here is a way over priced early Sportsman 20-gauge with a replacement stock --

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f ... =100853724

Here is a well worn August 1930 vintage Model 11 20-gauge --

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f ... =100850281

Amazing how many dealers misidentify the guns they are attempting to sell!!


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Mon Jun 05, 2017 7:28 pm 
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Researcher01 wrote:
I'd be hard pressed to pay this much for a 28-inch full, but this is a pretty nice one --

http://www.gunsinternational.com/guns-f ... =100855059



That is pretty close to the condition of my local one, I think the one I'm looking at might be nicer though. I cant remember if it had a plain or solid rib barrel though, that could be a big determining factor.

If I don't get that 11 there is a nice A5 16ga there that may go home with me.


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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Sat Jun 10, 2017 11:45 am 
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Here's the pics, looks to be a late one. Stock finish is a little chipped up. Bluing is great though.
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 Post subject: Re: Price check-Model 11 20 ga
PostPosted: Tue Jun 13, 2017 4:10 pm 
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Rudolph31 wrote:
If it was a 12 gauge, I'd agree. But 20's seem to go for more.


I agree. I managed to pick up a model 11 20-gauge for $330 on GB. I was thinking $270 but was willing to go a tad higher as it was a local dealer and I didn't have to pay the transfer nor shipping fee.

Michael




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