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 Post subject: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 8:25 am 
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I've read that the barrel from a 500 or a 535 will fit an 835 but you have to change the magazine tube first. Why would you need to change the mag tube ? the round is the same size ?




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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:15 am 
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The 835 uses an end cap open mag tube. When yoiu remove the mag tube cap, the tube is open and the spring is removeable. The 835 barrel attachment is a ring that fits over/around that tube. The 500 uses a closed tube system and the barrel attach is a closed ring that fits against the end of the tube, not over it. The 835 can use 6 rounder 590 barrels in a one to one swap but that's the only one. It uses the exact same tube and end cap as the 835. It's the only one that does, All the rest, the 500 etc, you switch the mag tube to match the barrel attach. An 835 can use all the 500 barrels that way. A 590A1 can be converted to shoot skeet etc, too. But simply put, the 500 is a closed tube system, the 835 is an open one. You need a mag tube to match the particular type you want to shoot.


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Sun Jan 01, 2017 10:47 am 
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Thanks, that was very helpful. Big disadvantage to the 835 IMO is not being able to fire slugs from the original barrel.


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 2:53 am 
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wfb18 wrote:
Item #12946, 18.5" cylinder bore w/bead sight, blue finish [$100.00 as of Jun 2013]. The #12946 is a true cylinder bore, smoothbore barrel, NOT AN OVERBORED BARREL, and both slugs and shotshells (2.75", 3", and 3.5") can be fired through it.

The #12946 can [no longer be] ordered parkerized for $20 extra. Barrel #12946 is the same as #90823, which is the part number of this barrel when it is sold to stores in clamshell packaging. Contact the Maverick Arms Product Service Representative directly at 1-800-363-3555, ext 541.


The 835 security barrels in stock are all blued. They used to accept an order to make one one from scratch and parkerized it. I quote my Maverick Arms Inc. invoice, "Sales Order 6034602, dated 25 Jun 2010, order date 22 Jun 2010. SKU# 12946. Item Description: BBL ASM 18CBBS BLUE. Unit Price: $120.00. Total S/H charge: $8.95. Total Invoice Amount: $128.95." Now regardless of the word "BLUE", the price was $120.00, whereas the price of the blued barrel was $100. The $20 difference was for parkerizing. Customer Service since 2013 has incorrectly claimed that parkerized 835 security barrels were never available.

No one should ever load or fire a 3.5" shell in a 500A barrel, or they and the barrel may blow up. A crimped 3.5" shell will fully chamber in a 500A gun with a 500A barrel (with the safety on!), when loaded at an angle through the shorter ejection port, as well as in an 835 gun with a 500A barrel. It is conceivable that someone in the future could try to shoot a 3.5" shell without reading the 500A barrel warning, trusting that the gun is an 835. I am opposed to 835/500A/590/590A1 barrel swapping, and so is Mossberg.

Mossberg Owners Manual for 500®, 505™, 535™, 590®, and 835® Shotguns wrote:
Barrels are not interchangeable between model numbers, gauge or capacity. 500®, 505™, 535™, 590® and 835® barrels are interchangeable only with barrels of the same model, gauge and capacity.


I felt stupid for trying that experiment when it seemed that the live 3.5" shell could not eject because some shell still remained in the 500A chamber, but fortunately it did eject without setting off the primer. The crimped 3.5" shell is 2-7/8". I was trying to save myself the trouble of attaching a 500A barrel to an 835 to see if a 3.5" shell will fully chamber.

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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Mon Jan 02, 2017 8:42 pm 
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That statement has nothing to do with converting a gun via a tube swap. Mossberg actually provides swaps like that. They will sell you an 8 shot tube and barrel to replace your six shooter. It's a common part and a common switch. Runs $120 or so I believe. Haven't looked in ages, though. They also sell the tubes and barrels individually with the implied by you understanding that YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE DOING. That paragraph is about simply sticking a diff barrel onto a gun that it won't fit. The same would apply to a warning on a .223 AR handbook that "7.62mm ammo shouldn't be loaded into this firearm". (other way around) It is NOT stating that it would be unsafe to convert the gun to whatever you wanted. It simply won't work one for one. The "future shooter" thing is sort of self defeating on its face. To suggest a person would know an 835 and not be knowledgeable enough to read the markings? Doesn't quite hold water. I have an 835 and I still read the markings on all barrels. A more common hazzard, one that happens every two years or so, is the old 20ga in a 12ga gun. How do you protect future shooters from doing that on your guns?


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 1:47 am 
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drahcirl wrote:
... The "future shooter" thing is sort of self defeating on its face. To suggest a person would know an 835 and not be knowledgeable enough to read the markings? Doesn't quite hold water. I have an 835 and I still read the markings on all barrels...

Richard, it's not the odds, it's the stakes.

As with other endeavors, just because one can do something does not mean that one should do something. Just because someone can fully chamber a 3.5" shell in an 835 that has an unread barrel marking on its 590A1 barrel does not mean that he should pull the trigger. Just because AGD68 can void his 835 DU warranty does not mean that AGD68 should void his 835 DU warranty.

I'm sure that a good hunter like AGD68 will buy a 20" or 24" slug barrel for his 835 DU, or an 835 security barrel for HD.

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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Tue Jan 03, 2017 9:25 pm 
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wfb18 wrote:
Just because someone can fully chamber a 3.5" shell in an 835 that has an unread barrel marking on its 590A1 barrel does not mean that he should pull the trigger. Just because AGD68 can void his 835 DU warranty does not mean that AGD68 should void his 835 DU warranty.


Except no one but you seems to think he's going to pop a 3" chamber barrel onto his gun and all the sudden be convinced that he CAN load that 3.5" into it. You give him credit for knowing the diff and knowing his gun....that goes farther than that.

Seriously, have YOU ever picked up a gun and a random box of ammo and started sticking the one into the other? Why are you convinced that someone else will?

As to a Mossy warranty....that's a topic I've ranted on more than once. While it's a great warranty and it works exactly as it should, Mossberg is my fav firearms company in fact, but the warranty, to an experienced owner, is almost a running joke.


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:27 am 
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I threw my back a few days back, spent the night in the hospital, and been layed up in pain and on drugs since. Haven't had a shower in five days and haven't been able to shave. I'm using that as an excuse for sounding like I was arguing. Wasn't intended that way. Not going to bother editing. Editing to hide content is for democrat liberals. ;)


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Sat Jan 07, 2017 9:30 am 
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The Mossberg warranty: what I meant was that it's a perfectly fine warranty and all....but once you buy a Mossy, you tend to become an expert in servicing it pretty quickly. If you get a 500, chances are you'll have an extra stock set or two inside a year. Barrels, addons etc the same. There's nothing on a 500 you can't fix or replace inside of five mins.


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 12:09 am 
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Richard, I hope that you are out of pain soon. I was not arguing either and I wrote "future shooter" to not say as much on AGD68's thread as I wrote previously elsewhere. When we pass on, the entire contents of our gun safe(s) with specified exceptions are usually willed to one heir, and then he might sell all or a part of those contents. We have no way of knowing who might wind up with an 835 with a 500 series barrel, and it just seems inadequate to leave a warning note attached to the gun when it would be simpler to respect the Mossberg warning. Good luck, sir.

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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Sun Jan 08, 2017 1:18 am 
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Thanks, Wfb! I appreciate it, bud. Getting better by the day. Still walking with a stick and moving really slowly but at least I got a shower today. Sitting on an inflatable seat thingy in the tub. I used to be immortal, I swear.


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 12:10 pm 
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Forgive the new guy, I have some questions on barrel swaps with the 835UM. I live in Alaska and was given the gun in trade, it has this God awful long barrel. Short of the story looking for a 18.5 barrel that will shoot up to 3.5 inch slugs, Can this be found. I contacted Mossberg spoke with guy named Joe according to him Mossberg
never made anything shorter than 24" incher...


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Thu Jun 29, 2017 10:05 pm 
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Welcome to ShotgunWorld, TitanMarine. Joe has more to learn about his job, and you could improve your thread reading. This thread has the following:

wfb18 wrote:
Item #12946, 18.5" cylinder bore w/bead sight, blue finish [$100.00 as of Jun 2013]. The #12946 is a true cylinder bore, smoothbore barrel, NOT AN OVERBORED BARREL, and both slugs and shotshells (2.75", 3", and 3.5") can be fired through it.

The #12946 can [no longer be] ordered parkerized for $20 extra. Barrel #12946 is the same as #90823, which is the part number of this barrel when it is sold to stores in clamshell packaging. Contact the Maverick Arms Product Service Representative directly at 1-800-363-3555, ext 541.


For HD you want only 2.75" buckshot shells. Are you concerned about brown bears in Alaska? You do want a slug to the skull, but if you miss you will need a second shot, which you will not have time to take if you discombobulate your brain with a 3.5" slug. What are your plans, sir?

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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:44 am 
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wfb18,
Thanks for the reply. I seen where you posted this in an older thread. So I decided to contact Mossberg to ask for that specific part number, that's when I got Joe. So I decided I'd post on here to get better clarification. My intent was to get a shorter barrel and carry it along with my Glock 20. I have shot quite a few 3.5" LightField commander IDS slugs 600 grainer's and you are correct they pack a heck of a punch. It would be strictly for the woods. Like I said I am a newbie and I welcome all information.


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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 12:58 am 
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wfb18,

The following is what I received from Mossberg, which led to me making the initial post.

Thank you for your email. We do offer a 18.5" blued barrel under part number 12946 for $110 + $10.95 S/H (Tax applicable in CT, NY and TX)

With the 835 you can only shoot slugs through slug barrels. This barrel is not a slug barrel so unfortunately it will not handle slugs. Generally shipping takes 3-5 business days but due to the holiday weekend it may take a little longer.

To order these parts you have 3 options for whichever works best for you;
Call me direct at 203-230-5304
Provide me with your payment information via this email. To do so I would need your full name, shipping/billing address and full credit card information (card number, exp date, name on the card and security code). If you wish to pay by check or Money order send to;
7 Grasso Avenue, P.O. Box 497
North Haven, CT 06473
Attention : Joe
Or you can feel free to call us during business hours at 1-800-363-3555 and press 1 for customer service.

Sincerely,

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 Post subject: Re: 835 Barrle swap
PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2017 8:16 pm 
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As I said, Joe has some more to learn about his job. At least he told you how to get the barrel from him.

Joe does not understand that the #12946 is a true cylinder bore, smoothbore barrel, NOT AN OVERBORED BARREL. He wrote: "With the 835 you can only shoot slugs through slug barrels. This barrel is not a slug barrel so unfortunately it will not handle slugs." Joe incorrectly thinks that #12946 is an overbored barrel and it is not an overbored barrel. I personally confirmed this with Mossberg over eight years ago. Good luck, sir.



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