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klebs01
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Post subject: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:56 am |
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Joined: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:48 am Posts: 22
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I'm new to skeet and shotguns. I went my first time on Wednesday, and had so much fun I had to go back last night. I kept score last night and shot 13 and 12, but I was low on 12ga shells so I switched to 20ga. I started shooting a lot better, 17 and 18. This seems counter intuitive to me. I figured I should shoot better with the 12. How many people here prefer or shoot better with a smaller bore than a larger? Is this common?
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Customstox
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:23 am |
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Joined: Fri Oct 24, 2003 12:02 pm Posts: 3303 Location: Wenatchee, Washington
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It is very common. The 20 gauge gives up very little if anything to the 12 ga in skeet.
_________________ Chic Worthing
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"Life Is Too Short To Hunt With An Ugly Gun"
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shotgun_sport
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 11:18 am |
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Joined: Mon Jan 26, 2009 2:07 am Posts: 218 Location: Winnemucca, NV
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I dont know customstox, i think you are giving up a lot of recoil. 
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Fish Springs
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 4:55 pm |
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Joined: Wed Oct 15, 2003 7:11 pm Posts: 2545 Location: Houston, Texas
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A 20 ga at about 8 pounds and 7/8 of an ouce of 8.5 or 9 shot is a sweet shooting Skeet gun. I like .003 choke (Brilely Light Skeet) and find nothing missing--except the recoil.
If you have no abitions to shoot Sporting Clays or Trap then a good 20 is all you need to start with.
_________________ A strong body makes the mind strong. As to the species of exercise, I advise the gun. This gives moderate exercise to the body & it gives boldness, enterprise, and independence to the mind. Let your gun be your constant companion.
T. Jefferson (1785)
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Doc O Glock
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 5:17 pm |
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Joined: Mon Jul 14, 2008 2:17 pm Posts: 838 Location: South East Michigan
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I very rarely shoot more than 28 Ga. This only works if you reload, but if your like me the bug will bite you bad enough that you will want to reload.
_________________ Beretta 687 EELL Beretta 682 Remington 11-87 Priemer Skeet 12 Ga Remington 1100 20 Ga an oldie but goodie 1969 Remington 1100 28 D grade Remington 1100 410 D grade Winchester Model 1897 CZ Ringneck 28 Ga Breaking Clays, Fixing Teeth!
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ricktraw
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:07 pm |
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Joined: Sun Jan 20, 2008 10:06 am Posts: 194 Location: S.E. MI
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28 gauge and .410 cover it for me. On rare occurrences 20 or 12 but only when I have components to burn up but then only 7/8 oz loads. Actually looking for a 20 gauge 3/4 oz load to play around with as I have more 20 gauge hulls than 28.
Just remember if you do the work they will break whatever you shoot.
_________________ Rick ________________________________ See the target Get in front of it Break it What's so hard about that!
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JudgeDee
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 6:15 pm |
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Joined: Sat Nov 14, 2009 9:05 am Posts: 1
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I recently tried Sporting with my 20 and I shot better than I ever had with my 12. Recoil was a little more with the 20 since I was shooting 1 oz with the 12 in an 8.5 pound gun and 7/8 oz in the 20 with a 7 pound gun but it was not at all objectionable. The 20 is just more fun because no one expects me to pound a target, so when I do it's like giving myself a high-five. I've been shooting a 20 for skeet off and on for years with results comparable to a 12. With skeet I don't think I give up anything going to a 20. If anything a 12 with 1-1/8 oz loads is overkill.
IMHO
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dalecooper51
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:06 pm |
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Joined: Sat Nov 08, 2008 7:26 pm Posts: 116
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I may be a heathen, but I like shooting skeet with my 12 ga much more than my 20.
Light 7/8 oz loads out of a 9 lb gun makes for a nice afternoon.
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Skeet_Man
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 8:51 pm |
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If your on w/ the 20, its not going to make a difference. However, the advantage of the 12ga comes into play when your not "on", whether your a little choppy that day, not seeing the target well, targets are a little off, windy, ect. Shoot to shoot, 12 vs 20 probably isn't going to make that much difference, and the better you are, the less difference it'll make, its the target or two that extra 4" of pattern gets you over the course of the year that makes the difference. I shot a 100 early this summer that I was NOT on for (bad nights sleep, didn't eat in the morning so I had low blood sugar, and was making horrible moves on the targets) that I KNOW would not have been a hundred had I been shooting the 20ga.
When there money, points, or pride on the line, throw absolutely as much shot out there as you can comfortably shoot! If thats the 20ga, cool, if its the 12ga, even better.
_________________ S3 Smingler Shotgun Sports Ian Smingler 585-613-8098 kolarskeet@gmail.com http://www.sminglershotgunsports.webs.com
Mfg. of Custom Brass Barrel Weights. Dealer for TrapDude Gooey Combs and Pads.
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Baron23
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 9:38 pm |
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klebs01 - you may have shot better scores due to the lower recoil of a 20 ga, or given the very small sample of a few rounds....you may have just shot that round better.
I like 20, but I shoot 1 oz 12 ga in the 12 ga events...I think they are advantageous to me....but I shoot a almost 10 lb gun that is very well fitted for me.
You will not know for sure which is better for you until you become a more experienced shooter with a greater amount of data to support a conclusion.
Best of luck to you....just keep shooting and you will find out which way to go for the big bore events.
_________________ Best Regards,
Stephen
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Mismost
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Fri Nov 20, 2009 10:07 pm |
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Joined: Sun Feb 15, 2004 11:21 pm Posts: 1678 Location: South Texas
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rickraw...I just started reloading and shooting a 3/4 oz load in a 20 hull...same payload less felt recoil than my 28 reloads. The bonus, it just crushes targets. You have the right idea.
_________________ I don't really miss most of them...it just seems that way...besides they all break when they hit the ground!
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Doc O Glock
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Post subject: Re: 12 or 20 Posted: Sat Nov 21, 2009 8:48 am |
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Mismost wrote: rickraw...I just started reloading and shooting a 3/4 oz load in a 20 hull...same payload less felt recoil than my 28 reloads. The bonus, it just crushes targets. You have the right idea. I use Win AA wads as the height seems to make a better crimp and I dropped down 1 bushing. I used this recipe until I came into a load of 28ga hulls, and now shoot them mostly. But when I use up those hulls, I'll go back to the 3/4 oz 20 load. It's allot easier to find those 20 Ga hulls.
_________________ Beretta 687 EELL Beretta 682 Remington 11-87 Priemer Skeet 12 Ga Remington 1100 20 Ga an oldie but goodie 1969 Remington 1100 28 D grade Remington 1100 410 D grade Winchester Model 1897 CZ Ringneck 28 Ga Breaking Clays, Fixing Teeth!
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