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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:02 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 2:07 pm 
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This thread brought to you by the same folks that "ring" cut their shells for those 60 yard targets .


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:01 pm 
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I have seen bbls ruined.

You do what you want , but when your bbls are ruined , don;t ask to borrow any of my guns.

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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:08 pm 
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I wouldn’t do it. It’s not necessarry. I’ve seen it done a fair amount iver the years, the only first hand knowledge of damage I have is some buggered threads.......


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:08 pm 
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sera wrote:
I have seen bbls ruined.

I don't have to take off my shoes to count the "threads" shots I've ever taken but let me repeat the question...
What damage can happen that would "ruin" a barrel?


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:13 pm 
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Why take a chance anything might happen? I’m not so sure I’d call threads an ‘ibstruction’, but I’m not certain I wouldn’t.

The perceived benefit doesn’t come close to the perceived risk. Not in my mind.


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:27 pm 
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Do it all the time with a Beretta 391. Probably would not due it with a really thin barrel wall and Briley tubes. I have patterned a few and Neil Winston on another forum has done serious testing. Threads will shot slightly more open that cylinder tubes, but cylinder tubes tend to shoot slightly tighter that cylinder barrels without tubes (probably due to the slight jug choke effect of the step down to the tube).


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:30 pm 
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Stuck-N-Kali wrote:
What damage can happen that would "ruin" a barrel?


Peening / deformation of the threads, primarily with steel shot. The higher velocity, the larger diameter shot the better if that is what you are looking for.

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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:49 pm 
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Steel shot at a sporting clays event? Hmm...
But back in the real world:
Let's see: steel threads vs. plastic or (worst case) lead.
Hmm... :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 3:59 pm 
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threads are boogered. Choke does not seat properly. Obstruction. Belling of the bbls at the thread end.

I've seen at least 5. Do what you want , it's your gun. :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:45 pm 
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Having a choke in the end of the barrel helps to protect the end of the barrel. If you bump the end of the barrel against anything without a choke in it the odds of damaging the end of the barrel are much greater.

I put a cylinder choke in whenever I am shooting at real close targets.


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:50 pm 
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Steel shot at a sporting clays event? Hmm...
But back in the real world:



I believe California requires steel / non tox for all shooting.
But maybe you dont consider that the real world. {hs#


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 6:52 pm 
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If the gun was meant to be shot without chokes, It would have a fixed choke barrel. If it was designed to have chokes use the chokes.


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:03 pm 
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Most clays in CA are lead. Hunting is no lead for most birds... all birds in 2019.

See: https://www.wildlife.ca.gov/hunting/nonlead-ammunition


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:32 pm 
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Steve Y wrote:
wcampb7899 wrote:
Steel shot at a sporting clays event? Hmm...
But back in the real world:



I believe California requires steel / non tox for all shooting.
But maybe you dont consider that the real world. {hs#


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I don't think ANYONE considers California part of "The Real World"........ :wink: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Mon Feb 05, 2018 7:36 pm 
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You could just shoot with the chokes that are in the gun and leave well enough alone. Or like someone else said carry spreaders . I’ve never seen a gun damaged but, I suppose anything is possible.
Focus on going into the close target presentation with an aggressive winning attitude. Telling yourself you need to open the choke because, I might miss it? That’s the wrong attitude imho. What happens if you miss it anyways? Your confidence can potentially be shattered. You can miss any target at any distance get used to that lol.
It will be what you learn from that miss and the corrective action taken to get the hit on the next one that will help you more than decisions about choke for this or that.

Shoot well and often and wish you all the best.


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:22 pm 
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No one has addressed the question yet, does using no choke and just threads do any good?

Anyone any idea of the truth here? Or do you just want to count angels in the choke threads

(even it it does not screw up the barrel)

If I ever write a book. it will be short - pointing the gun in the right place and pulling the trigger at the right time is all it takes, shot size, 1 1/8 oz choke barrel length etc do not matter


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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 5:45 pm 
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sera wrote:
threads are boogered. Choke does not seat properly. Obstruction. Belling of the bbls at the thread end.

I've seen at least 5. Do what you want , it's your gun. :roll:



You have seen at least 5 of what??

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 Post subject: Re: Removing the Choke Tube to Shoot Close Targets
PostPosted: Tue Feb 06, 2018 6:11 pm 
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For the cost of a choke tube I don't know why someone would want to do that. Some people have more money than brains. Go figure. I spoke to a gentleman at Krieghoff in PA. some time back. It was an emphatic NO! Thread issues were the concern. But, your gun. Do what you want with it.



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