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 Post subject: Shot size for different targets?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:39 am 
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I have been shooting for a while but have never put a lot of thought into shot size for different targets. I usually shoot 8's in almost everything (all gauges) and have been fairly successful that way. What is the consensus on carrying 7.5's for longer shots and 8.5's for closer ones- worth it or am I just overthinking things?



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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:51 am 
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Overthinking in my opinion, though you certainly have plenty of company.

If it works for you, and gives you confidence, I’d say keep it up. I went to 7.5’s 25 years ago for sporting, and haven’t looked back since.


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Overthinking. If you choke tight enough, then 7-1/2’s will break everything. A good 1oz 7-1/2 and your Sk choke will break every target under 30 yards. The same load through your Mod will break every target out to 50 yards. If it’s over 50 yards, go to your F. Or not, because the M will break 99% of those if you do your job.

OTOH, if you believe 1-1/8 oz of 8-1/2’s through your IC will get you more targets between 32 and 38 yards than the Mod/1oz 7-1/2’s, and won’t clutter your mind with all the extra thinking, then by all means carry them.

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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
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FWIW - At local events I shoot 8's at everything because there's almost nothing beyond 50 yds. When I go to larger events that may throw some longer targets (and likely require factory ammunition) I shoot 7.5's at everything, always M/M whatever the shot size. At my skill level it probably makes no difference, but it's a simple system that requires no thought once I'm on the course.


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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 9:47 am 
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What you are thinking is exactly what a friend of mine does; he leaves his .018 chokes in his barrel and uses 8.5 for everything under ~30 yards - except rabbits - and 7.5s for rabbits and targets over 30 yards.

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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
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7.5's for everything and leave the mental masturbation behind..


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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
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I was firmly in the 7.5s for everything camp, but I am wrestling with this right now.

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My vote is 7.5 for all.

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I am a fan of keeping it simple - I shoot #7.5 for everything.

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My limited Sporting Clays experience indicates that the most suitable shot for rabbits (which are apparently made of concrete) is a 3" load of #2's.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 11:55 am 
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I'm leaning toward a cluster bomb for rabbits, heck I'd still shoot in front.


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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 12:40 pm 
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Appreciate all the input. Enjoyed the entertaining responses regarding rabbits as well! As suspected I believe I'm overthinking this. The never-ending winter up here is starting to get to me. My local course is open but every day I've been able to shoot it's either been rain/snowing or I've been out of town... :(

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Doc, if you're going to use different chokes for different distance shots, then it makes sense to me to use smaller shot on the long end of your open choke range to help fill out the pattern.

Yes, one ounce of #7.5 will break a 30 yard target with a Skeet choke... PROVIDED you get a good hit on the target. If you don't understand what I'm talking about, just put that load/choke on paper at 30 yards and see what it looks like. Then imagine an edge-on target at numerous locations in that pattern. You'll find lots of places where an edge on target could slip through. Even one ounce of #8 won't guarantee a hit in ALL locations in that pattern, but it fills it out better than #7.5 does. And #8.5 fills it out even better, but you may not want to carry too many different loads. It's up to you.

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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 1:47 pm 
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Shoot a good quality 1ounce load of 71/2 shot out of a modified choke. Then spend your time studying the target line, break point, and hold point. If you miss it will be your fault, not the shell or the chokes. Then if you gain the knowledge of how to really focus on EVERY target, you will become a top shooter. I just can not get the focus on EVERY target figured out. It sounds easy, but takes extreme mental discipline.


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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 3:12 pm 
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Sporting about the only reason for # 8 is a open choke gun that needs the pellet count to get adequate density. Otherwise use the largest shot rules allow.

My opinion anyway.

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I think someone should develop a multi-dimensional matrix of choke, shot size, distance, target type, edge on vs. face. Maybe a little app on your phone so you plug in the variables and the best load and choke shows up. And I would still shoot behind it.

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Or maybe we could all just go out and shoot and have fun.

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Darkhorse60 wrote:
Shoot a good quality 1ounce load of 71/2 shot out of a modified choke. Then spend your time studying the target line, break point, and hold point. If you miss it will be your fault, not the shell or the chokes. Then if you gain the knowledge of how to really focus on EVERY target, you will become a top shooter. I just can not get the focus on EVERY target figured out. It sounds easy, but takes extreme mental discipline.



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 Post subject: Re: Shot size for different targets?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 4:49 pm 
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hopper810 wrote:
Darkhorse60 wrote:
Shoot a good quality 1ounce load of 71/2 shot out of a modified choke. Then spend your time studying the target line, break point, and hold point. If you miss it will be your fault, not the shell or the chokes. Then if you gain the knowledge of how to really focus on EVERY target, you will become a top shooter. I just can not get the focus on EVERY target figured out. It sounds easy, but takes extreme mental discipline.



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Yep. Long time ago I started shooting 1oz 7-1/2 through M/M and never looked back. I know if I do what I'm supposed to the targets will break so I concentrate on doing what I'm supposed to and don't worry about chokes or shot size.


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PostPosted: Tue Apr 10, 2018 8:07 pm 
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