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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:31 pm 
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Jim Miller wrote:
Sure. We just laugh and mark a zero.


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But then shooting sporting is not a life or death situation for us. We shoot for fun (and bragging rights, too).


Then why do you bother with marking a scoresheet?




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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 6:34 pm 
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Many times we don't keep score. Oh, did you miss the bragging rights thingy?

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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 7:09 pm 
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If you are just shooting for laughs, giggles, and bragging rights, what do you brag about?


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:16 pm 
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Remember that the club has paid for every target. So paying for all of mine is no problem.
Were I shoot we pay with a volume discount and get 5% for breakage. That is built into the price and no one complains.
How many show birds do I give a single shooter versus a 5 man squad?
Single shooter x 15 stations = 130 targets
5 man x 15 stations = 106 targets per shooter.

How do you do that fairly? Does the single shooter get the extra 24 targets for the same price?


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:26 pm 
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Jim Miller wrote:
Many times we don't keep score. Oh, did you miss the bragging rights thingy?

LOL your scores were never anything to brag about from what I saw.....


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:33 pm 
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JER2 wrote:
Jim Miller wrote:
Many times we don't keep score. Oh, did you miss the bragging rights thingy?

LOL your scores were never anything to brag about from what I saw.....

Why don't you two just get a room? :roll:


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Sun Apr 15, 2018 8:37 pm 
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ShowMe wrote:
If you are just shooting for laughs, giggles, and bragging rights, what do you brag about?


Gonna go out on a limb and guess that if someone was shooting for bragging rights then that is what they would brag about. Just a wild guess!

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Remember that the club has paid for every target. So paying for all of mine is no problem.
Were I shoot we pay with a volume discount and get 5% for breakage. That is built into the price and no one complains.
How many show birds do I give a single shooter versus a 5 man squad?
Single shooter x 15 stations = 130 targets
5 man x 15 stations = 106 targets per shooter.

How do you do that fairly? Does the single shooter get the extra 24 targets for the same price?


My club charges 21 cents a bird. At that price, I choose not to complain. If there's a problem trap then we skip it and leave a note for management as management requests that we do. Problem traps are pretty rare at my club. Then again, I've never loaded up enough birds for only a single round, so maybe doing it that way would change my mind. I typically load 2,000 at a time.

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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:44 am 
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ShowMe wrote:
If you are just shooting for laughs, giggles, and bragging rights, what do you brag about?
I hope you are just playing dumb here.

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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 3:17 pm 
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At my home club we get a "free" show pair per station. Unless the traps have been moved, none of the regulars ask to see them.

At another club I shoot at, they claimed they were losing 3 cases every time they were open. They raised the rates, eliminated show the show pair and installed a card system. They claimed their loss was due to 2 instructors. They sure pissed off a lot of people and spend a ton of money to supposably deal with 2 problem people.

I'm kinda' cheap, so, if it's flying, I'm shooting.


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:32 pm 
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I never understood why people with problems don't deal with the problem.

They should have done something with the 2 people causing the problem.

Instead of doing that they charge everybody.

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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 4:58 pm 
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At my home club we get a "free" show pair per station. Unless the traps have been moved, none of the regulars ask to see them.


At the two clubs I shoot the traps are moved each time the sporting course is opened. I guess that's why they give show targets.

A sporting course that doesn't move the traps doesn't seem very sporting.


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:27 pm 
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A sporting course that doesn't move the traps doesn't seem very sporting.


That's just plain laziness on the Clubs part and kind of a kick to the nether regions of the shooters that help to keep them open.

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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 5:53 pm 
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Cletus McGinn wrote:
At my home club we get a "free" show pair per station. Unless the traps have been moved, none of the regulars ask to see them.

At another club I shoot at, they claimed they were losing 3 cases every time they were open. They raised the rates, eliminated show the show pair and installed a card system. They claimed their loss was due to 2 instructors. They sure pissed off a lot of people and spend a ton of money to supposably deal with 2 problem people.

I'm kinda' cheap, so, if it's flying, I'm shooting.


Sounds like you drank the Kool aid if you believe that Cletus. (Cletus) how'd you come up with that by the way. That club has always blames everything but the real problem. After losing so much business due to mis management, and the main coach leaving on his own with his customers behind him, the card system may save them. Especially since the club has now run the other instructor off due to other issues, not stealing targets. See you soon. Maybe tomorrow.


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 6:14 pm 
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KRIEGHOFFK80 wrote:
I never understood why people with problems don't deal with the problem.
It's called being gutless


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:23 pm 
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hopper810 wrote:
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A sporting course that doesn't move the traps doesn't seem very sporting.


That's just plain laziness on the Clubs part and kind of a kick to the nether regions of the shooters that help to keep them open.


Some of that I will respond to with "it depends"

Most courses around me have several courses, at least 1 of which is set up as the beginner shooter's course and is generally left the same way for 2 months or so so that new folks can come back, remember what the targets are and have some success shooting a known target. The other courses, designed for medium to tournament shooters get changed more often. That easy course is typically nicknamed "skeet in the woods".

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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:36 pm 
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1redvette wrote:
Cletus McGinn wrote:
At my home club we get a "free" show pair per station. Unless the traps have been moved, none of the regulars ask to see them.

At another club I shoot at, they claimed they were losing 3 cases every time they were open. They raised the rates, eliminated show the show pair and installed a card system. They claimed their loss was due to 2 instructors. They sure pissed off a lot of people and spend a ton of money to supposably deal with 2 problem people.

I'm kinda' cheap, so, if it's flying, I'm shooting.


Sounds like you drank the Kool aid if you believe that Cletus. (Cletus) how'd you come up with that by the way. That club has always blames everything but the real problem. After losing so much business due to mis management, and the main coach leaving on his own with his customers behind him, the card system may save them. Especially since the club has now run the other instructor off due to other issues, not stealing targets. See you soon. Maybe tomorrow.




Wow. I don't think you know me? It sounds like your club has similar issues?


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 7:54 pm 
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I don't think their is any standard price Quail creek is .39 for members .49 for non members south florida is .30 for members and .50 for guests Quail also credits you for show pairs I belong to Galltain sporting clays in Montana and members there pay .15 non members are .45 Billings rod and gun is I think .30 for members .50 for non members I think the privately owned clubs tend to be a little higher than the member owned clubs.


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 8:47 pm 
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We don't get show birds but at $ .21 a target I am not complaining.

My card how 2,000 targets and I can shoot any time if the weather would get better.

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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Mon Apr 16, 2018 11:10 pm 
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Location: Clemson,S.C.
Club A- .20 members .30 non members. Course is changed every week. 1 or 2 show pair is usual, no chg.
Club B- .25 members. .35 nonmembers. 2 courses changed every 7-10 days. The club adds 10% to your card for show or broken targets.
Club C- .35 members. Not sure about non members. Course changed every week. No provision for show pairs.
All 3 of these clubs have registered and/or circuit shoots and have good participation.


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 Post subject: Re: What's your clubs policy on show birds, etc?
PostPosted: Tue Apr 17, 2018 8:49 pm 
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My home club has one show pair per station. I am sure they loose a bit of money with folks claiming broken clays that aren't, but most of us will let them know when we shoot extra.

We have a club around here that hasn't changed the layout in two years. I shot an event out there in '16 and recently shot there again, not a single change... it was sad. I have no idea how they keep the range open, they don't allow or offer carts and the course is laid out so there is a lot of back tracking. It is sad because the land the beautiful and the facilities are the best for 100 miles in any direction but the ownership is just so bad at running a range.




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