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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:30 pm 
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Can't fault Don Currie for shameless self promotion. Gil Ash and a lot of others doing
it-including people on this forum.
Too many people trying to get a piece of the pie. Unfortunately it's a very small pie.

And who doesn't love pie?



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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 2:36 pm 
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Ya'll ain't even on Paragon's level http://www.paragonschool.com/paragon-in ... rogram-cis. :twisted: :mrgreen:

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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 3:04 pm 
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"I teach my Instructors – when you are teaching – it is NOT about you. It is ALL about them. You are not there just to teach and enlighten but to elevate their spirit, their soul. And when you do, the gift comes back to you."

Daniel Schindler, Paragon Master Instructor, U.S.


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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 3:18 pm 
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dickgtax wrote:
Can't fault Don Currie for shameless self promotion. Gil Ash and a lot of others doing
it-including people on this forum.
Too many people trying to get a piece of the pie. Unfortunately it's a very small pie.


2 things

#1 There is more pie than you know out there my friend.
#2 your comments tell me you have zero understanding of the situation. I shouldn't have to explain it either. Read again and again what Brad, David or many of us said either here or on FB if you don't understand...


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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 3:44 pm 
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Bandito13 wrote:
dickgtax wrote:
Can't fault Don Currie for shameless self promotion. Gil Ash and a lot of others doing
it-including people on this forum.
Too many people trying to get a piece of the pie. Unfortunately it's a very small pie.


2 things

#1 There is more pie than you know out there my friend.
#2 your comments tell me you have zero understanding of the situation. I shouldn't have to explain it either. Read again and again what Brad, David or many of us said either here or on FB if you don't understand...
I'm anything but a good shooter, but I've been a NSCA member for over 20 years and I've shot all over the country. I know how big the pie is and I understand the situation just fine. Don
Currie took advantage of his position with the NSCA to promote himself. I hope that David and Brad get an equal opportunity to do the same.


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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 6:59 pm 
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dickgtax wrote:
. I hope that David and Brad get an equal opportunity to do the same.


I never miss an opportunity :)

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PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 7:16 pm 
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dickgtax wrote:
. I hope that David and Brad get an equal opportunity to do the same.


I never miss an opportunity :)


I just never miss :lol: :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 9:07 pm 
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David,

I watched you shoot for the first time at the FITASC event at the Western Regions at Quail Point. I was extremely impressed with your techniques, in particular how you varied both your speed of mount and speed of your gun depending on what the target was doing. All the while having perfect insertions and being very smooth and relaxed. I would take a lesson anytime.

I suggestion I might make is for you to maybe think about that many folks here either aren’t ready to understand what you have to say about this, or else they are like Brad G and just don’t want to understand. There’s not much you can do about this, other than make these kind of posts on your own website and carry on the discussion in your own backyard. This place can be like an unfamiliar bar room, with all kinds of attracts and pokes. You don’t need that.

Thanks for sharing.


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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 9:50 pm 
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Mule Driver wrote:
David,

I watched you shoot for the first time at the FITASC event at the Western Regions at Quail Point. I was extremely impressed with your techniques, in particular how you varied both your speed of mount and speed of your gun depending on what the target was doing. All the while having perfect insertions and being very smooth and relaxed. I would take a lesson anytime.

I suggestion I might make is for you to maybe think about that many folks here either aren’t ready to understand what you have to say about this, or else they are like Brad and just don’t want to understand. There’s not much you can do about this, other than make these kind of posts on your own website and carry on the discussion in your own backyard. This place can be like an unfamiliar bar room, with all kinds of attracts and pokes. You don’t need that.

Thanks for sharing.


Well said Mule ^^^ {hs#

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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:07 pm 
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David Radulovich wrote:

I just never miss :lol: :wink:


Oh my...

You know, I really hope you thank God every day for the opportunity and blessings He’s given you. You are fortunate to have very well off parents who were willing to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to pro level shooter/instructors so that you could do what you clearly love. I’m happy you were given the gifts God provided.

Some us lowly shooters weren’t born into privileged families and had to work for every dime we have. Some, like me were only able to afford to participate in this sport later in life. And I’m blessed enough to still be healthy enough to do fairly well.

I know you say you have “zero ego”. I don’t know you, but statements like the above make me doubt your assertion.

I hope you have appreciation for the fact that while you were a boy playing a game, breaking clay targets paid for by your orthodontist daddy, Mr. Currie was selflessly serving the country as a US Army Ranger. While you may have a point in reacting to Mr Currie’s article, I do believe a modicum of respect for his age and his service is in order.

I wish you well and pray you really are as grounded as you purport to be.

God Bless.


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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:18 pm 
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J.T. Guitar wrote:
David Radulovich wrote:

I just never miss :lol: :wink:


Oh my...

You know, I really hope you thank God every day for the opportunity and blessings He’s given you. You are fortunate to have very well off parents who were willing to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to pro level shooter/instructors so that you could do what you clearly love. I’m happy you were given the gifts God provided.

Some us lowly shooters weren’t born into privileged families and had to work for every dime we have. Some, like me were only able to afford to participate in this sport later in life. And I’m blessed enough to still be healthy enough to do fairly well.

I know you say you have “zero ego”. I don’t know you, but statements like the above make me doubt your assertion.

I hope you have appreciation for the fact that while you were a boy playing a game, breaking clay targets paid for by your orthodontist daddy, Mr. Currie was selflessly serving the country as a US Army Ranger. While you may have a point in reacting to Mr Currie’s article, I do believe a modicum of respect for his age and his service is in order.

I wish you well and pray you really are as grounded as you purport to be.

God Bless.


No worries,

I do have a strange sense of humor, so I will admit that sometimes my jokes come across as not being jokes -- that however was one. I'd never say something that stupid seriously.

But you are right, I was extremely lucky that my parents invested the amount that they did in order for me to learn this game from the people that I did, I'm also just as blessed that my parents didn't think I was crazy when I told them I wanted to play a game for a living instead of take over my father's business -- and that they supported me in that decision :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:42 pm 
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David Radulovich wrote:
J.T. Guitar wrote:
David Radulovich wrote:

I just never miss :lol: :wink:


Oh my...

You know, I really hope you thank God every day for the opportunity and blessings He’s given you. You are fortunate to have very well off parents who were willing to spend thousands upon thousands of dollars to pro level shooter/instructors so that you could do what you clearly love. I’m happy you were given the gifts God provided.

Some us lowly shooters weren’t born into privileged families and had to work for every dime we have. Some, like me were only able to afford to participate in this sport later in life. And I’m blessed enough to still be healthy enough to do fairly well.

I know you say you have “zero ego”. I don’t know you, but statements like the above make me doubt your assertion.

I hope you have appreciation for the fact that while you were a boy playing a game, breaking clay targets paid for by your orthodontist daddy, Mr. Currie was selflessly serving the country as a US Army Ranger. While you may have a point in reacting to Mr Currie’s article, I do believe a modicum of respect for his age and his service is in order.

I wish you well and pray you really are as grounded as you purport to be.

God Bless.


No worries,

I do have a strange sense of humor, so I will admit that sometimes my jokes come across as not being jokes -- that however was one. I'd never say something that stupid seriously.

But you are right, I was extremely lucky that my parents invested the amount that they did in order for me to learn this game from the people that I did, I'm also just as blessed that my parents didn't think I was crazy when I told them I wanted to play a game for a living instead of take over my father's business -- and that they supported me in that decision :lol:


A perfectly grounded response brother. I do appreciate a dark sense of humor. I look forward to maybe meeting you down the road. Blessings.


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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Fri May 11, 2018 11:53 pm 
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I loved Brad’s post. It took some balls to do it.

Brad please know that at least two clubs here in South Carolina would love to have you come and do some lessons.

I can guarantee you that when I next spend money on some instruction, it will be with someone like Brad, Wendell, David, Zach or Anthony.


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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 6:34 am 
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David Radulovich wrote:
ysr_racer wrote:
dickgtax wrote:
. I hope that David and Brad get an equal opportunity to do the same.


I never miss an opportunity :)


I just never miss :lol: :wink:


That is what I've been telling everyone. If you stop missing you will break more targets.
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I loved Brad’s post. It took some balls to do it.

Brad please know that at least two clubs here in South Carolina would love to have you come and do some lessons.

I can guarantee you that when I next spend money on some instruction, it will be with someone like Brad, Wendell, David, Zach or Anthony.


Same here. I've had instruction by pro and non-pro. My former athletic experiences lead me to mesh more with the pro mindset...even though I just fart around.

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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 7:21 am 
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David,

Maybe you guys that are pros should stop giving Don your secrets. I get that you guys all believe sharing will help the sport; but if his taking credit for it all then you guys should start playing your cards closer to your chest. No more consulting with him. Let him build his own curriculum and the free market will sort itself out.

Also, I’m not sure that any disrespect towards Don’s service to our county or his age was meant.

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 Post subject: Re: interesting discussion on instructors
PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 7:43 am 
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I loved Brad’s post. It took some balls to do it.

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Thanks, some of you guys are gushing like a school girl over these guys. You realize sporting clays is just a game, right?

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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 8:18 am 
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Frankly criticism hurts our sport. Some clubs that had registered shoots, don't any more because of the complaining. Many shooters don't realize how much it takes running a club, or those that do coaching.


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 8:42 am 
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ysr_racer wrote:
VTHokiesDuckHunter wrote:
I loved Brad’s post. It took some balls to do it.

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Thanks, some of you guys are gushing like a school girl over these guys. You realize sporting clays is just a game, right?


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PostPosted: Sat May 12, 2018 8:46 am 
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When you say "Some clubs that had registered shoots, don't any more because of the complaining."

Just what were they complaining about?

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One of the guys I took a lesson from and had a great time and learned a lot is BRAD KIDD.

And he was ailing that day from a bad allergy attack.

He taught me two tricks which I use to this day as they were too perfect not to employ. PLUS he freely admitted that he had learned one from AM , after AM had defeated him using the "trick" to win a shoot -off.

Sign up and take a lesson from Brad. Your shotgun will thank you.



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