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Post subject: Mike McAlpine's BOOK Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 11:29 am |
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Mike is wrapping up his book and asked me to ask other target setters to get w/ him on any ideas they might want to contribute. About 10 yrs ago , I set targets at three clubs for about a 3-4 yr period. I mostly just stole from Mike and Jimmy Montgomery. Both Mike and Jimmy have set a lot of targets at major shoots incl NSCA Nationals, World All Around , etc.
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Post subject: Re: Mike McAlpine's BOOK Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:17 pm |
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I believe Mike needs to address the proper attitude for a target setter.
There are too many people who get into target setting at the local clubs and it becomes an ego test, where the target setters sole desire is to BEAT the shooter. This is typically done by throwing extremely long & difficult targets.
Any chimpanzee can crank up the spring and set long targets. The real talent in a target setter is to get you to miss a target that "appears" easy to hit. Using terrain, the natural landscape, a clever target setter will leave you shaking your head.
So, having the proper attitude is important. The goal needs to be to entertain and engage the shooter, not beat them into the ground. People do this sport for recreation; so it should be fun.
This is the biggest problem in target setting today. I hope Mike will properly address it.
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Post subject: Re: Mike McAlpine's BOOK Posted: Thu Jun 25, 2020 3:47 pm |
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^^^ I agree..........at some clubs that is all I see (and I stop going to them) at others, the setter makes you think you got it made..........until you don't....LOL
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Post subject: Re: Mike McAlpine's BOOK Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 8:38 am |
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The problem today is you have people that call themselves target setters and they have no clue. Most of them reside at small local clubs. And they have no training in sun issues, backgrounds and what's a reasonable target. Just about everyone who shoots knows the difference between technical,hard and stupid. Good setters know they are in the entertainment business and make shooters want to return.
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Post subject: Re: Mike McAlpine's BOOK Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 9:53 am |
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Joined: Sun Jan 08, 2012 8:24 pm Posts: 850 Location: Western Colorado
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MdShooter wrote: The real talent in a target setter is to get you to miss a target that "appears" easy to hit. Using terrain, the natural landscape, a clever target setter will leave you shaking your head. Jon Kruger is a master at this.
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Roger Gascoigne
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Post subject: Re: Mike McAlpine's BOOK Posted: Fri Jun 26, 2020 11:48 am |
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Joined: Sun Jun 01, 2003 10:19 pm Posts: 2489 Location: Tampa Florida
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I think you have to have shot at MANY clubs and studied their form before you set targets Its not just being able to use a 19mm wrench on a trap
And you have to keep shooting to see new ideas
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Post subject: Re: Mike McAlpine's BOOK Posted: Sun Jun 28, 2020 12:05 pm |
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Roger Gascoigne wrote: I think you have to have shot at MANY clubs and studied their form before you set targets Its not just being able to use a 19mm wrench on a trap
And you have to keep shooting to see new ideas That is a huge one. I can remember when Richie Jr came down to set targets in the 90s. He blew my mind. He did things I hadn't considered and got me always looking for something else from then on. Got to stay involved for the always changing methods. A ton of time behind a wrench is great but nothing replaces just looking around.
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