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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 1:56 pm 
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For the flurry someone should try an A5 as it doesn’t require port loading and automatically charges the barrel with a live round.

For me I’m an OU guy for registered targets but I’ll have to say I don’t flinch leaving an an auto in my toolbox even in our current heat in Texas. It’s nice knowing it’s ready to go if the opportunity comes up to go break clays. DL




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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 2:14 pm 
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I used an 1100 for sporting clays for several years, and still do so as a backup.

It was so easy to use an empty chamber indicator to assure others - at a glance - that the gun was unloaded between stations and while on the rack. It became part of my routine and fellow shooters appreciated it. The indicators came in a pack with more than I needed, so I ended up giving many of them away when asked where I got them.

Evidently these are common at three gun matches, and work just as well for clay target events.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:24 pm 
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Malcolm7 wrote:
I used an 1100 for sporting clays for several years, and still do so as a backup.

It was so easy to use an empty chamber indicator to assure others - at a glance - that the gun was unloaded between stations and while on the rack. It became part of my routine and fellow shooters appreciated it. The indicators came in a pack with more than I needed, so I ended up giving many of them away when asked where I got them.

Evidently these are common at three gun matches, and work just as well for clay target events.



Am not familiar with an " empty chamber indicator ". Will google.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 3:38 pm 
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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Tue Jul 14, 2020 4:14 pm 
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Thanks Randy. Can`t say as I`ve ever seen one of those.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 6:38 am 
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I bet many people wouldn't even know what an empty chamber indicator is!! :lol: :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:01 am 
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Malcolm7 wrote:

Evidently these are common at three gun matches, and work just as well for clay target events.


Not just common, but required in a lot of competitions.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 7:20 am 
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I think they are required in NRA sanctioned high power matches. They have been in all that I have attended at least.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 8:39 am 
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Tidefanatic wrote:
Malcolm7 wrote:
I used an 1100 for sporting clays for several years, and still do so as a backup.

It was so easy to use an empty chamber indicator to assure others - at a glance - that the gun was unloaded between stations and while on the rack. It became part of my routine and fellow shooters appreciated it. The indicators came in a pack with more than I needed, so I ended up giving many of them away when asked where I got them.

Evidently these are common at three gun matches, and work just as well for clay target events.



Am not familiar with an " empty chamber indicator ". Will google.


Every semi-automatic handgun and rifle that I've bought in recent years has come with one already in place in the chamber inside the factory box. Haven't bought a semi-auto loading shotgun this century so I don't if those now come with one or not. They certainly should.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 9:05 am 
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An open bolt is an open bolt. An open action is an open action.

There is no need for a chamber indicator to futz around with on a sporting clays course.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:19 am 
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dogchaser37 wrote:
An open bolt is an open bolt. An open action is an open action.

There is no need for a chamber indicator to futz around with on a sporting clays course.


I agree. A chamber indicator is overkill on a Sporting Clays course. But is an open action always readily viewable to other shooters on the course. Here's a video that sums up safely carrying in a just a couple of minutes. This is how I learned to carry various types of shotguns on the clays courses when I first started. Certainly different than carrying in hunting situations.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4zPrd-uKxc


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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:23 am 
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There is no need for a chamber indicator to futz around with on a sporting clays course.


You get 25 of them in every box of target loads.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 10:50 am 
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There is no need for a chamber indicator to futz around with on a sporting clays course.


You get 25 of them in every box of target loads.

This is a TERRIBLE idea. Nothing resembling any kind of live round should be anywhere near the gun when it's not being used at a station.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
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There is no need for a chamber indicator to futz around with on a sporting clays course.


You get 25 of them in every box of target loads.

This is a TERRIBLE idea. Nothing resembling any kind of live round should be anywhere near the gun when it's not being used at a station.


Who says a spent, unfolded shell resembles a live round? Paint it purple with yellow pin-stripes if you wish. It is loudly obvious to anyone and everyone that a spent hull sticking out of the ejection port that keeps the bolt out of battery renders a semi-auto inert.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:20 am 
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See how far you get with that idea trundling around mist any established shotgun shooting facility......

Open& empty, open with an approved indicator are the answers. The ‘world’ of shotgun shooting ain’t your 20yd straightaway in a field.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
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See how far you get with that idea trundling around mist any established shotgun shooting facility......


It is actually reasonably common for shotguns on the rack. Apparently, the safety mafia is unaware that no one knows if a closed O/U on the rack is loaded, or not. By that metric, autoloaders are safer than O/U's.

It is non-issue, for when guns are pointed in a safe direction they can do nothing. The 'dangerous' autoloader myth is, as someone pointed out, largely an anti-gun issue, not one based on reality.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 11:45 am 
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I happen to like SA’s, don’t believe they’re one bit less ‘safe’ than any other type of shotgun.

But your ‘hillbilly fix’ to a problem that doesn’t exist is not well thought out. Deal with it.


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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:05 pm 
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For over 120 years, in war and in peace, for civilian use, for LE use, for military use, for HD use, for hunting, and for breaking clay pigeons, John Browning has proved that repeating shotguns are just as safe as any other shotgun type and supremely safe for all of these applications.

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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:06 pm 
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Huh?


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 Post subject: Re: Why Not A Semi Auto For Sporting Clays?
PostPosted: Wed Jul 15, 2020 12:20 pm 
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Relying on the operator to not make a mistake is fine, but not as fine as a method that more closely approaches fail-safe or as we used to call it in less politically correct times, foolproof. An open O/U more closely approaches foolproof than the other options being discussed here.



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