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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 3:17 pm 
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JonnyRocket wrote:
Where else can you shoot 500 FITASC targets in 4 days?



At most of Joe Cantey's larger shoots! Hermitage Farm in Camden, SC is the epicenter of FITASC and, as V.P. of FITASC worldwide, Joe has a strong reputation for setting great and fair targets.

Be on the lookout for his Palmetto Cup or any of the FITASC qualifier shoots in the spring or fall.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 6:01 pm 
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just looked and can't find any events scheduled there. At just under 8 hours it'd be quite a drive but for a big enough event i might do it.


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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 7:32 pm 
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The one round of FITASC I've shot, I really enjoyed. Even though it was pouring rain and cold as heck. I look forward to doing more of it when the plague clears up.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:23 pm 
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JonnyRocket wrote:
I will drive a couple hours, give or take, for a registered sporting shoot, but I will travel almost anywhere for 200 birds of competitive FITASC if my schedule can accommodate. I consider it the pinnacle of all target shooting. One of my favorite shoots of the year is the Promatic 500 at Northbrook. Where else can you shoot 500 FITASC targets in 4 days?


{hs# The 500 generally has decent weather and always is entertaining/challenging.
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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Mon Jul 20, 2020 8:52 pm 
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sera wrote:
It's the costs of ref's that deter local clubs in having the shoots.

For me , FITASC is the top of the top.


For YOU, I would have guessed ZZ or pigeons, same for Jacks Back

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 10:53 am 
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oneounceload wrote:
sera wrote:
It's the costs of ref's that deter local clubs in having the shoots.

For me , FITASC is the top of the top.


For YOU, I would have guessed ZZ or pigeons, same for Jacks Back


I can only afford to shoot flyers maybe once per year -- I'm not good enough to regularly finish in the money. ZZ's is also relatively expensive to shoot, around here runs roughly $2/target. But I can afford that so do it more often. The bigger nit for me, is I believe shooting ZZ's (and flyers) actually impairs the advancement of my sporting game somewhat...

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:00 am 
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Like Jack , my chances to shoot ZZ's and pigeons is limited. But , when FITASC is offered I sign up and shoot, especially 28g.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 11:18 am 
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JacksBack wrote:
oneounceload wrote:
sera wrote:
It's the costs of ref's that deter local clubs in having the shoots.

For me , FITASC is the top of the top.


For YOU, I would have guessed ZZ or pigeons, same for Jacks Back


I can only afford to shoot flyers maybe once per year -- I'm not good enough to regularly finish in the money. ZZ's is also relatively expensive to shoot, around here runs roughly $2/target. But I can afford that so do it more often. The bigger nit for me, is I believe shooting ZZ's (and flyers) actually impairs the advancement of my sporting game somewhat...

Funny you say that, I have been shooting Helice weekly for the last 2 months and my sporting scores have went down.
Don't know if it's related or I'm just in a rut.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 12:20 pm 
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jusanothajoe wrote:
Funny you say that, I have been shooting Helice weekly for the last 2 months and my sporting scores have went down.
Don't know if it's related or I'm just in a rut.


The "coiled viper" reactive move I make on the ZZ or flyer is significantly different from how I engage most clay presentations. While being able to attack a clay is a good skill, not all sporting targets require it -- I think for me that is where the disconnect occured... I've had to force myself to slow way down on clays and consciously look for the best break-point. For whatever reason that has been an exceedingly difficult aspect of the sporting game for me to re-acquire.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 6:13 pm 
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JacksBack wrote:
jusanothajoe wrote:
Funny you say that, I have been shooting Helice weekly for the last 2 months and my sporting scores have went down.
Don't know if it's related or I'm just in a rut.


The "coiled viper" reactive move I make on the ZZ or flyer is significantly different from how I engage most clay presentations. While being able to attack a clay is a good skill, not all sporting targets require it -- I think for me that is where the disconnect occured... I've had to force myself to slow way down on clays and consciously look for the best break-point. For whatever reason that has been an exceedingly difficult aspect of the sporting game for me to re-acquire.

I have always shot clays low gun, and I shoot Helice pre-mounted, I think that may be what is causing a problem with me ? Could just be my ADD kicking in also :roll:
Would love to try the flyers one day, but man it's expensive.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Tue Jul 21, 2020 9:04 pm 
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So hard to find info about flyers i guess because the anti types get frothy mouthed over it. i'd definitely give it a shot though. what's the typical cost?


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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:17 am 
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birdhunter39 wrote:
So hard to find info about flyers i guess because the anti types get frothy mouthed over it. i'd definitely give it a shot though. what's the typical cost?

Others that have participated could tell you more accurately, but I was told to figure on at least $1K a day.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 5:40 am 
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On second thought I’m not sure flyers are the thing for me!

For that kinda dough I think I’d rather do a driven shoot in the UK.


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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 7:23 am 
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jusanothajoe wrote:
birdhunter39 wrote:
So hard to find info about flyers i guess because the anti types get frothy mouthed over it. i'd definitely give it a shot though. what's the typical cost?

Others that have participated could tell you more accurately, but I was told to figure on at least $1K a day.



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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 8:08 am 
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Ditto to the Fiocchi 500 that Northbrook throws..........that event is legendary.

I like Fitasc the most, and actually for the North Central Regional, I'm not shooting the main, Fitasc and side events for this guy, super sporting five stand.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 9:41 am 
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Think of shooting flyers the same as buying a Ferrari, Bentley or Rolls... (If you have to ask how much one costs, you probably can't afford it.)

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 10:29 am 
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JacksBack wrote:
jusanothajoe wrote:
Funny you say that, I have been shooting Helice weekly for the last 2 months and my sporting scores have went down.
Don't know if it's related or I'm just in a rut.


The "coiled viper" reactive move I make on the ZZ or flyer is significantly different from how I engage most clay presentations. While being able to attack a clay is a good skill, not all sporting targets require it -- I think for me that is where the disconnect occured... I've had to force myself to slow way down on clays and consciously look for the best break-point. For whatever reason that has been an exceedingly difficult aspect of the sporting game for me to re-acquire.


Very interesting, Jack.

I had thought that ZZs was helping my sporting game, but after two different sessions with Marty Fischer last Wednesday and Saturday, we spent considerable time cleaning up bad habits that I acquired doing so.

One of the great things about having the same instructor on a regular basis for nearly 25 years is that they know more about your shooting than you do. Marty caught onto this in about 10 minutes.

Still love shooting ZZs, however. Not going to give that up. Just got to watch out for certain things when going back and forth.


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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:13 pm 
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FITASC is definitely my favorite. It’s really the best test of wingshooting skills IMO. This is sacrilegious but sporting has gotten to be like trap to me. Same shots over and over...and don’t miss!


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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 12:44 pm 
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winmod21 wrote:
FITASC is definitely my favorite. It’s really the best test of wingshooting skills IMO. This is sacrilegious but sporting has gotten to be like trap to me. Same shots over and over...and don’t miss!

I agree; I still like it, but not as much when I first started. I still see way too many 4 and 5 pair stations; without terrain here in FL/S.GA to work with, I am also starting to see a lot of basically the same presentation - some form of quartering away or 90degree crosser. I understand the club guys views though too. Shooters have come to expect good scores, even if their skills aren't quite what they used to be. They don't mind having 1, maybe 2 hard stations, but seem to want the rest to be cupcakes. It seems to be getting harder for the good setters to try and please everyone's expectations.

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 Post subject: Re: Gotta say i love FITASC over regular sporting.
PostPosted: Wed Jul 22, 2020 1:22 pm 
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winmod21 wrote:
FITASC is definitely my favorite. It’s really the best test of wingshooting skills IMO. This is sacrilegious but sporting has gotten to be like trap to me. Same shots over and over...and don’t miss!


AJ Smith said exactly that quite a few years ago.




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