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 Post subject: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 9:56 am 
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I have been noticing that more and more people are doing elaborate preshot routines in sporting. You have King George who doesn't take any time to people apparently attempting to solve Pascal's Law before shooting. Going over the target line over and over with their gun mounted and empty or just staring off into space for 15 seconds or so between each pair. Heck, Collin Morikawa has a shorter preshot routine than some of these shooters! In Olympic trap I think you get 13 seconds to shoot and you don't know where exactly the target is going to be and they seem to be able to manage it.

Should there be a shot clock or a rule change that doesn't allow you to mount the gun before being ready to shoot or something? It would probably lower the winning scores a few birds I suspect.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
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It would be a fight to the death.......


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:13 am 
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The Swanny wrote:
It would be a fight to the death.......

On SGW it usually is.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 10:18 am 
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Most of the local shoots are SYO, so I don't see a shot clock being enforced.

From purely empirical observations of local shooters, the guys who take an inordinate amount of time to set up, usually are in their own head, and don't shoot well anyway, so who am I to stop them?

What is a bite is getting stuck behind a full squad of shooters fighting off the witches. Try and jump them if possible.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
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The Swanny wrote:
Should there be a shot clock or a rule change that doesn't allow you to mount the gun before being ready to shoot or something? It would probably lower the winning scores a few birds I suspect. .



Just what we need, another rule and scorers with a stop watch.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:02 am 
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I like watching the different routines people have. Am most impressed by shooters who step in and call pull as quickly as they can load the gun then smoke everything.

I don't take long at all but if i don't force myself to slow down and be deliberate once in a while i'll get lazy and miss easy targets.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:34 am 
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Rooster booster wrote:
Riding crop at each stand.......


I was thinking shock collar......


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 11:44 am 
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birdhunter39 wrote:
I like watching the different routines people have. Am most impressed by shooters who step in and call pull as quickly as they can load the gun then smoke everything.

I don't take long at all but if i don't force myself to slow down and be deliberate once in a while i'll get lazy and miss easy targets.


I am very similar to that. I need the process sometimes. But watching some videos I thought man, this is getting out of hand! But to each their own.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:21 pm 
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The Swanny wrote:
Rooster booster wrote:
Riding crop at each stand.......


I was thinking shock collar......


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:21 pm 
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The Swanny wrote:
Rooster booster wrote:
Riding crop at each stand.......


I was thinking shock collar......


I’m good with that:-)

For the elite shooters, in major tournaments, where they have much on the line.....I don’t care what they do. But for the rest of us hacks, don’t be dicking around for 45 seconds before calling for the target. Especially when you’re 27 down, and we’re only halfway through.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 12:54 pm 
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Bubba closes the gun and calls pull plus loads quickly in the recent videos posted here. The staring at the sky and constant tracing of the line by others is very time consuming.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
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I’ll answer; no hurry, but no dawdling either somewhere between the two.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:40 pm 
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Now I know why FITASC has certain rules. The mock shooting/practice mounts and staring into space has gotten out of hand in SC's. And that latching crap is really puzzling.


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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 1:49 pm 
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I agree re shot clock -- another good reason to shoot FITASC. I got behind Tom Seay at a big shoot a few years ago, he's one of Wendel's prodigies. Anyway, he was A squad I was in B squad at the start for whatever station we were on. 4 stations later we had three other full compliment of squads stacked up behind us. He definitely takes his time staring down the witches AND rubbing his palms on his butt before he addresses and calls. IDK how in the heck he shoots FITASC with its 15 second rule.

PS: Don't get me wrong, he's a really nice and polite young man, and an excellent shot, but it can be annoying to be squadded behind shooters like him.

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 Post subject: Re: Pre Shot Routine Madness
PostPosted: Mon Aug 10, 2020 2:05 pm 
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IMO a preshot routine should be long enough to load, visualize a successful pair, and soak in the good feelings the visualization brings. Then it's straight to process. This takes me about 5-6 seconds. My experience is that dwelling on any part of the preshot seems to be self defeating.

A shot clock seems practical. A shooter shouldn't be rushed but things need to keep moving.



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