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 Post subject: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 10:56 am 
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So I purchased a new gun for sporting clays and trap. I have taken it to the range once and Im not 100% sold on it. It feels nice but it doesnt seem to be breaking the clays as hard as my last gun I shot for many years. This is the first time I purchased a new gun for clay shooting. The fit is nice and close to the same that I am used to shooting. I have patterned it and set it up as close to my old gun as possible.

How long on average does it take you guys to get used to a new gun?




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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Sun Feb 18, 2018 11:02 am 
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Shouldn’t be too long if you’re out shooting it early and often.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 8:55 am 
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What does "not breaking them as hard" mean? All I worry about is when a new gun isn't breaking them as often.

I've been told it takes around 1,000 targets to get comfortable with a new gun and I'd at least shoot that many before making any decisions about it. Don't touch any other gun especially the one you used before until you've at least put a thousand shells through the new one.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 9:52 am 
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The new gun will handle differently based on fit, weight and balance. The trigger and lock timing will also be different. Where your old gun previously patterned is a great place to start, but any new gun will need to to be adjusted for the veryables.

Assuming your using enough choke to make smoke, poorly broken targets are more POI related than operator error. Your catching the target with the outside edge of the pattern. A case of pattern too low or high more likely than you needing to get used to the gun. Not that isn't true, we all need 1000 to 5000 targets to become completely confident in a new shotgun, but poorly broken targets are as likely POI related compared to handling and trigger.

A place to start anyway..... add or delete a washer or two under the comb until you make dirt in the sky more often than chips and chunks. You will gain an understanding of your gun and its POI. There is no such thing as complete confidence if you can't crush targets in the trap game. Without confidence a shooter will be an 80%er all their life and never know why they miss targets.

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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:31 pm 
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"any new gun will need to to be adjusted for the veryables"

I think they also need to be adjusted for the not so varyables as well. :-)


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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 12:49 pm 
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Jim Tyner wrote:
"any new gun will need to to be adjusted for the veryables"

I think they also need to be adjusted for the not so varyables as well. :-)

Neither one of you guys can spell variables. :D :D


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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 1:02 pm 
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Vette Jockey wrote:
Jim Tyner wrote:
"any new gun will need to to be adjusted for the veryables"

I think they also need to be adjusted for the not so varyables as well. :-)

Neither one of you guys can spell variables. :D :D

...or perhaps that word has varyable spelling? :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 5:52 pm 
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The one thing I am afraid of is if I shoot this enough trying to get used to it, it will screw with my form or whatever if I go back to my old one.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 19, 2018 6:06 pm 
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I just got my new stock completed as well and I found that I need some time behind the trigger before I am bonded with the gun again, even though it has been built straight from my pattern stock, which I have been shooting for about a year prior. My coach said, I will need at least 2000 rounds to get a good feeling of it and about 5000 to come back to the same natural feeling as I had with the pattern.

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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Wed Feb 21, 2018 9:45 am 
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OK Tyner.....one thing certain. My spellin is way better than your doubles scores. Just sayin.....pittyful. :lol:

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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 12:07 am 
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It’s that Iowegian spelling. Sorry Maltz, I just couldn’t refrain. I’m married to a Mineesotan. I think it explains a lot. On a serious note to the Op. try getting the new gun to shoot to the same POI of the old gun. For Me made a noticeable improvement in My struggles, err, I mean journey in trying to get to being a better shooter.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Mon Feb 26, 2018 1:30 pm 
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Rjp - "The fit is nice and close to the same that I am used to shooting."

How close is it? Have you measured and compared the new gun's stock dimensions to your old gun? If you haven't, it might be
worthwhile comparing them.

Dimensions that can make a difference in addition to the drop at the comb are the pitch, the drop at the heel and of course, the length of the stock (LOP).

How does the balance of the two guns compare?

Do they seem to swing similarly?

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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Sun Mar 04, 2018 11:34 am 
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mortum wrote:
I just got my new stock completed as well and I found that I need some time behind the trigger before I am bonded with the gun again, even though it has been built straight from my pattern stock, which I have been shooting for about a year prior. My coach said, I will need at least 2000 rounds to get a good feeling of it and about 5000 to come back to the same natural feeling as I had with the pattern.

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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Wed Mar 07, 2018 2:16 pm 
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Check the POI by shooting both guns at side by side targets.
I have two shotguns I want to shoot to the same POI so I
took a target stand with targets on it to the range yesterday
and adjusted the comb on the newer gun until it was shooting
the same POI as my old gun.


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 Post subject: Re: Getting used to new gun
PostPosted: Fri Mar 09, 2018 6:31 pm 
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Jim Tyner wrote:
I think they also need to be adjusted for the not so varyables as well. :-)

Good one, Jim.


I think 1000-5000 targets to get used to a new gun (or a change to an old gun?) is a bit much. I would be well acquainted with my new guns by the time I put a case (250 shells) through it.....and two cases (500 shells) would seem like shooting with an old friend.
Most of us are quicker learners than that.




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