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 Post subject: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Sun Oct 04, 2009 7:08 pm 
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Hey Guys, fairly new to these boards. Can someone give me instructions to disable the automatic safety on my coach gun. I like a working safety, but could do without one that re-sets upon re-loads. I would hate to be in a bad situation and forget that I have to flip the safety again. Thanks


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 2:57 pm 
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Here is a good link that can get you the info you need:
http://www.benelliusa.com/forum/showthread.php?t=14650

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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:13 pm 
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Thanks evbutler, but apparently his instructions are for the Condor only. Very different internals he said. So... Still looking. Anyone?


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:30 pm 
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Search around on that forum. There is some good info on it somewhere that will help you.

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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:35 pm 
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BTW, the Uplander is the same gun. Check around on the Benelli forum that I gave you. There is good information on that site but you have to look for it. Any data that refers to the Uplander applies to the Coach gun.

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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 7:44 pm 
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Gregch44 wrote:
Hey Guys, fairly new to these boards. Can someone give me instructions to disable the automatic safety on my coach gun. I like a working safety, but could do without one that re-sets upon re-loads. I would hate to be in a bad situation and forget that I have to flip the safety again. Thanks


Here's what I suggest. Remove the buttstock so that you have a clear view of the action parts. Make sure the gun is not loaded. Work the safety back and forth so that you can see what it does inside the action. Then open the gun to cock the hammers and then close it. Dryfire both barrels, then open the gun and close it again. Did you see a little stiff wire push the safety back into the "SAFE" position? If so, remove that wire. You've now converted the gun to a manual safety.

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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:21 pm 
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Sometimes it is easier to cut the rod, that usually is attached to the top lever shaft, enough so that it does not engage the safety. Like was said, watch it work a few times and you will know how much to cut off. Somewhere along the line, there is probably an eyelet guide; leave enough of the rod so that it stays in the guide when the barrels are locked up as in a ready to fire mode.

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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 8:32 pm 
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Thanks for all the help guys, I'm goin in.


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Oct 05, 2009 9:05 pm 
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Well... That was so easy that I'm embarrased I even asked. Pull the stock and fix is plain to see. Rod operates auto safety. Cut rod right behind ring guide (about 3/16" to 1/4") with hacksaw blade. Jewelers file to deburr and done. Normal safety. This rod does double duty, it serves as a spring guide for the break lever return spring. This spring returns the break action lever back to closed position (center), so rod can't be removed all together. It must stay for the lever to function properly, and therefore must be shortened to achieve this goal.

Thanks for the help guys.


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Sat Dec 19, 2009 2:30 pm 
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just got a outback and already hate the safety. I will try this as well.


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 4:31 pm 
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cut the L-shaped rod off just ahead of the bend. Seems to work fine now as a manual safety.


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 6:09 pm 
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i might be among the minority that likes that the saftey resets itself after the barrel is open, i hunt more than i comp shoot and while walking i keep the safety on anyway


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Mon Dec 21, 2009 8:35 pm 
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The safety doesn't bother me that much either and I just leave it because I let beginners use it also.


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Sun Feb 14, 2010 3:12 pm 
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I grew up learning to shoot safely with a manual safety. Safe gun practice requires a safety, but I think that I can put that safety on all by myself. Does anyone out there wish that they could modify all their other guns to automaticaly safety? I don't care to have one of my guns operate differently than the rest of them. Just my 2 cents on why I disabled mine.


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Sun Feb 21, 2010 2:52 pm 
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I just left mine because I may use it as a teaching tool from time to time.And that might be safer for my backside.LOL But if you are the main user I don't see a big problem,like you say my other guns are manual anyway.


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Thu Jun 30, 2011 5:32 pm 
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I just took the rod out of both of our Condors. I put a cotter pin in and trimmed so that the safety indent is still working. My girlfriends Condor's safety was very hard for her to release. This made it a whole lot better.

On a side note, I did not see that the rod did anything other than activate the safety. I read that it also returns the break open lever. Mine seem to still work just fine with the rod removed. Did I miss something?


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 Post subject: Re: Damn auto safety
PostPosted: Tue Jul 05, 2011 1:11 am 
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kb7kuh wrote:
I just took the rod out of both of our Condors. I put a cotter pin in and trimmed so that the safety indent is still working. My girlfriends Condor's safety was very hard for her to release. This made it a whole lot better.

A cotter pin, or a roll pin? A cotter pin is really not the right thing to use in this case. You should really use a roll pin (hollow pin with a "c" cross section.) Or is that what you meant?

kb7kuh wrote:
On a side note, I did not see that the rod did anything other than activate the safety. I read that it also returns the break open lever. Mine seem to still work just fine with the rod removed. Did I miss something?

For the Condor, the rod only activates the safety. The top lever has its own spring to return it to center and engage the locking lugs.

If you want to see what the whole thing looks like disassembled, have a look here:

http://photobucket.com/guestlogin?album ... isassembly

Password is b8d4b123


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