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 Post subject: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:04 am 
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I was wondering what other forum members are using to lubricate the bolt/slides on their autoloaders. Specifically, does anyone use slide grease (used with autoloading pistols)? If so, what brand?

I have been using CLP, but it does not stay on very well.

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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:20 am 
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I have a Beretta 391 and use good quality gun oil,at the moment it's Browning Legia (I think that's how it's spelt) in an aerosol.What I use depends on what is on offer at the gunshop when I stock up.I use a thin brush to apply it to the grooves the bolt slides in.


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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:26 am 
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I put 1 drop of oil on each of the slide rails and one on the bolt face firing pin hole; 3 drops total for my Benelli SS at each shooting day. Some guys say that I'm over-oiling!

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PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:42 am 
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Just like light bulbs, as in change them, just before they burn out, oil the auto, just before it stops cycling!

In both cases, brand is the least of the equation, they are all going to "run out/dry" sometime.

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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:50 am 
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CLP is pretty good and so is FP-10 and Militec. Using grease is a good way to have your auto stop cycling especially in the cold.

If your rails look dry just add a drop into each one and keep shooting. After you clean your gun, lightly lube it and add more if needed.


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 Post subject: Re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:55 am 
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esulcove wrote:
I have been using CLP, but it does not stay on very well.


That may be a blessing.

You don't want too much lubrication in there. In fact, a Beretta 391 will work just fine with no lubrication at all. Beretta recommends that the gas parts (cylinder, piston, etc) be shot dry, but they say the bolt should be lightly lubricated with oil (their own brand, natch). I spray mine lightly with CLP. Others may not agree, but in my experience Breakfree CLP seems to work better than oil, because it does not form a sludge of oil and powder reside like some oils seem to do. That may be due, at least in part, to the fact that it partially dries up.

I certainly would not use any kind of grease. That will quickly form an abrasive paste of powder residue.

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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 11:19 am 
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The 391 that I had I shot nearly dry. In fact, several shooting acquaintances would constantly berate me on that fact. Yet I would go about 1000 rounds before cleaning it and put VERY little lubricant on the gun.
That said, I have had better luck with grease of some sort than any of the more liquid oils I've tried. The main problem(s) are that in hot weather, the oils can thin out and lose their lubricity. In cold weather, almost any lube will start to gum up and thicken and become like peanut butter on the gun.
I found using the Pro Gold choke tube lube from Pro Shot to be the best. I've used it at -7 F and over 100 F and the lube doesn't go anywhere.

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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:01 pm 
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The key to lubrication on a shotgun is to use it sparingly on the right places. I use Breakfree CLP or rem Oil, but I put it on a small drop at a time. On the bolt rails I put a drop on each side.

A good gun oil should not gum up in cold weather or thin out too much in hot. When you over lubricate a shotgun it collected dust powder residue and grime as it is used and it will not keep cycling as long as it would if you used much less oil.

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 Post subject: Re: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 2:27 pm 
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Banjo MD wrote:
I put 1 drop of oil on each of the slide rails and one on the bolt face firing pin hole; 3 drops total for my Benelli SS at each shooting day. Some guys say that I'm over-oiling!


Same here.


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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:22 pm 
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The important thing is to spread it out. Any good oil like CLP will stick to metal surfaces and not run as much as if you just plop a whole drop on. What I do is put a drop or two on each rail, and then cycle the bolt three or four times SLOWLY.

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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 6:31 pm 
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do not use grease. it can cause jams and picks everything up and become abrasive. grease really causes trouble in the cold.

use a couple drops of oil and that's it. a little goes along way. use any brand (except wd-40) you like. i use beretta oil myself, but anything you like will do the job.

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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Mon Apr 14, 2008 10:49 pm 
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same as I use on my s&w 9mm either breakfree or rem-oil. :)


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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 2:15 pm 
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Thanks to all who responded. It looks like I am on track, and will not be changing my procedure.

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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 3:53 pm 
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I use Stag frigidized gun oil.It works great even at very low temperatures.


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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 6:52 pm 
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I'm with everybody else...I run my autos (391 and multiple SX-1s) very dry. When I break the gun down completely, I spray the bolt with solvent then blow dry with compressed air...then spray with gun oil (any light gun oil) then blow off excess with compressed air.

A drop or so of oil in the rails and that's it. I keep a can of CLP in my bag in case I'm at a shoot and it starts to get balky...that's the only time I will spray the bolt/receiver with oil and to me its a sign its time to break the gun down and clean it.

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 Post subject: re: Autoloader slide lubrication
PostPosted: Tue Apr 15, 2008 7:25 pm 
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Ballistol is an excellent lubricant IMHO. I clean my auto after each use wipe dry, spray lightly and wipe off any excess. No problems so far on a 1970's 1100.

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A light amount of the finest WD 40, sprayed on the moving surfaces of an automatic shotgun, will ensure good cycling. Then, clean it every time you shoot it. :lol:


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A light amount of the finest WD 40, sprayed on the moving surfaces of an automatic shotgun, will ensure good cycling. Then, clean it every time you shoot it. :lol:



Trouble maker! :roll: :lol:

BTW, I ran into, shot with your buddy Steve G. a week ago.

I hadn't really shot the muzzle loader for about a year. And it showed!

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