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 Post subject: Remington Sportsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 7:25 pm 
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Is 200.00 +12.00 tax a good deal to pay for a Rem.11 Sportsman in 20 Ga. with Cutts Compensator? Wood is good, blueing is good, looks very well cared for. Made in the 40s. Feedback?? Photo soon.



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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:10 pm 
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JMO, I would put that $200 towards a later model, gas gun myself, but I am as far as you can get from a humpback fan. WalMarts here have SuperSpeed Extras on now for $20 a flat, I would have about 250# of bullets if I had $200 burning a hole in my pocket. :wink:

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 8:14 pm 
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I have a Rem. Model 11 20ga Sportsman made in 1940, and it's one of my absolute favorite shotguns. I would jump on it for $200 if it's in the condition you describe. At that price you could always get your money out of it if you decide you don't like the design.

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
PostPosted: Tue Nov 09, 2004 9:21 pm 
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TexasTon,

I have always wanted a humpback either in A-5 or Rem.11. The 20 ga is a special treat as my son wanted one. Not sure if the Cutts was standard back then, or if it was an aftermarket thing. I see a lot of A5s with Cutts compensators.
We have developed a Remington collection of the older shotguns, so we are continuing until we get most of them: currently have

Remington Sportsman 58 in 12 Ga
Remington Mohawk 48 in 12 Ga
Remington 1148 in 16 Ga
Remington Wingmaster in 12 Ga
Remington Sportsman Model 11 20 Ga

more to go

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 1:49 am 
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The Cutts was a factory option on both the M11 and the A5 back in those days. Most A5s with factory Cutts have no choke markings.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
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A5guy

I was hoping you would chime in here since you are an A5 expert. Is the Cutts effective?? What is your opinion of them??

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
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Then, by all means jump on it, any working auto shotgun in decent shape is worth that, especially one that you desire.

I have a 12 ga 11, I take it out of the safe every couple of years just to remind me why I hate them so, if it wasn't my Dads gun it would be sooooooo outa here :roll:

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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:21 pm 
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Rog, The Cutts was designed for fiber and card wads. Some say that they don't perform as designed with plastic cup type ammo that is made today. I have several guns with Cutts on them. M12s and M42 Winchester Skeet guns with Cutts were all the rage in the 40s and 50s. Remington offered M31s and M11 with factory Cutts,too. So did most American gun companies.

Up until a few years ago when I retired my M12 Pigeon Skeet guns for repos and bought a repro M42 to shoot skeet with,I shot modern ammo through the Cutts with no bad results. I only patterned the 16ga M12 with a skeet tube installed but it gave exellent patterns with Winchester AA Skeet loads,#9.

One draw back on a used gun with a Cutts is that the tubes are very hard to find in some chokes and particularly in 28ga and .410. I bought a box of new and used Cutts tubes from an old gunsmith's estate so I have most of the ones that I will ever need. An old Stevens with a Cutts and a full set of tubes in the original box may fall into the catagory where the chokes are worth more than the gun.

The Cutts was never used in our duck binds. It ws never a written rule but none of our hunters ever showed up to hunt ducks with a Cutts equipped gun. They have a remarkable "side blast".


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 12:49 pm 
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:) Yeah, I had the Cutts put on my 12 ga 870 Trap gun. It's now my 870 skeet gun, as the spreader tube is the only one that shoots a good pattern on my particular gun. :cry:
Be that as it may, I'd still leap on that 11 for $200.00!
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There is a 12 gauge in a local shop for $600 here, and it probably is not as nice as the one you are looking at.

I used to hunt with a rich doctor who had many guns. But his favorite hunting gun was a humpback with a cutts compensator. It was simply magic in his hands. I can not imagine that the cutts won't work fairly well with modern ammo after watching this guy shoot his. He would shoot pigeons coming into the field low with a spreader tube and then switch to a full choke for when they came back out high.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington Spotsman Model 11 on Browning Patent
PostPosted: Wed Nov 10, 2004 10:11 pm 
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Gentlemen, great info, especially on the cutts compensator. I will post a pic as soon as i can.



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