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 Post subject: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 6:43 pm 
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I'm looking at a used, but well taken care of, Remington Premier 11-87 12 gauge with a 28 inch barrel, interchangeable choke tubes, 3" chamber, and walnut stocks. Asking price is $400.

It seems like a nice all purpose shotgun that could be used at the range or in the field. The number of aftermarket parts (stocks, barrels, choke tubes, etc.) for the 11-87 is amazing to me.

I've read lots of comments about "Remington" vs "Berretta" and I don't want to start that whole thing up again because I'd have to pay twice as much for a Beretta.

So my questions are about the 11-87...is $400 a fair price? Any other comments on the Remington 11-87...specifically the Premier 3" chamber model?

I've read complaints about some models not cycling target loads well, but I'm wondering if that is occuring more frequently in the 3.5 inch chamber super mag version?

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:21 pm 
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You don't have to pay twice as much for a Beretta. The Wal Mart 390 sells for around $500.00 new.
Three of my friends had a lot of problems with their 11-87's. All of them were 3" models.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 7:33 pm 
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The 11-87 is a very good shotgun one with which I would feel perfectly comfortable with as my only gun. Theres not a whole lot that a good 11-87 12gauge 3 inch chamber premier can't do. The price is right imo for the gun

edit: the previos last part didn't come out as I had intended, it's gone now. :twisted:

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Wed Mar 02, 2005 11:06 pm 
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It's not worth arguing over which brand of semi-auto is "better". All the major brands have their fans and their haters. Get the gun YOU like.

A new 11-87 with walnut stock and blued finish is about $570 at Academy Sports. My local Wal-Mart sells the plastic stocked, matte finish 12 gauge "semi-humpback" Beretta 3901 for about $590. Of course, prices may vary in other areas of the country. It pays to shop around.

There are plenty of other manufacturers who offer semi-autos, and nearly all of them are available for under $1000.

To answer your question, $400 is a good price for a used 11-87 in good shape. When kept clean, they should cycle most loads. Depending upon how you interpret Remington's on-line guidance, they seem to suggest using 2 3/4" filed loads or 3" loads in field grade 11-87s. However, several people on this list have had good luck using lighter loads in field grade 11-87s.

Good luck!


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Thu Mar 03, 2005 12:03 am 
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That's a reasonable price if it's in excellent condition. You can get a new for maybe $175ish more though. I know Davidson's had that same gun for $582 a couple of weeks ago anyway. Don't worry too much about the Remiginton v/ Berretta v/ Benelli v/ Winchester v/ Browning arguments you'll get from other autoloader shooters here. They are all good guns with various feature, prices, etc. Get what you want...you are correct..the 1187 is a good range or field gun.

I've got several autos including an 1187 Premier...zero feed problem with target loads.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Sun Mar 06, 2005 5:55 pm 
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Thanks for the advice. I found a 20 gauge Beretta 390 at the gun show this weekend that I ended up purchasing for my son. I think it was one of the Wally World closeouts being re-sold for a small profit, but it was still brand new and in the box.

After I bought the 20 gauge 390 for him, I decided that I should look for the same thing in 12 gauge for myself, but I couldn't find one at the show (except for a 391 with an $850 price tag on it). I stopped at WalMart on my way home and they had a 12 gauge 390 in the case marked $529, but the guy at the counter said he'd "take 10% off" because he was in a good mood today. I agreed on the price, something like $476, but then he noticed that the trigger guard was a little scratched from the trigger lock, so he asked the manager if he could discount it some more. The manager says "how about $450", and I jokingly say "how about $400"...and he says "OK". WOW...I had to pinch myself to make sure that I wasn't dreaming! That made my decision a no brainer...used Rem 11-87 vs new Beretta 390 for the same price?


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 3:50 pm 
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Am I missing something here? Is this a Field,Trap or Skeet Grade Premier? I ask this because a "F" Grade Premier will go for $4000 in exellent condition and the Gold Premier will run almost $5000.

If it is a nice Field Grade Premier and it fits you, $400 is a reasonable price. It may be good buy. JMHO

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:09 pm 
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The Rem 11/87 is a great gun! (I own one). however, It is not made to cycle light loads. For instance; Rem literature will tell you to shoot (12 ga.) a min of 3 1/4 powder and 1 1/4 shot. I've seen people at gun stores trying to return new one's they just bought saying theres something wrong with it. It wont cycle!

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 4:10 pm 
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The Rem 11/87 is a great gun! (I own one). however, It is not made to cycle light loads. For instance; Rem literature will tell you to shoot (12 ga.) a min of 3 1/4 powder and 1 1/4 shot. I've seen people at gun stores trying to return new one's they just bought saying theres something wrong with it. It wont cycle!

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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 5:03 pm 
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>>The Rem 11/87 is a great gun! (I own one). however, It is not made to cycle light loads.<<

I found this out the hard way, and am now using an O/U!


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Mon Mar 07, 2005 9:31 pm 
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A5guy wrote:
Am I missing something here? Is this a Field,Trap or Skeet Grade Premier? I ask this because a "F" Grade Premier will go for $4000 in exellent condition and the Gold Premier will run almost $5000.

If it is a nice Field Grade Premier and it fits you, $400 is a reasonable price. It may be good buy. JMHO


Remington may have changed nomenclature over the years. Today's standard field grade 11-87s are called "Model 11-87 Premier", and are stamped as such on the receiver. These guns sell new everyday at Wal-Mart and sporting goods stores for about $600.

According to their 2005 print catalog, the D & F grade shotguns coming out of the Remington Custom shop are simply named D or F. These guns run close to $10,000 new.


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 Post subject: Re: Remington 11-87 Premier 12 gauge price check
PostPosted: Mon Mar 21, 2005 12:22 pm 
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My walmart has the Premier for $525 and its a good looking gun. Some nice stamped engraving on the reciever and some nice wood with excellent checkering. In my opinion you have to find out how old the gun is. I bought a 1100 just last week and was having problems with it cycling (pretty much a single shot). It looked really clean and almost unused. (very little wear overall). I took it back to the shop where I bought it, Graf & sons in St. Charles MO, and they took it back and sold me a used Franchi 612 sporting with 30" ported barrel and a case with all the orignal paper work and other assorted doodads for $75 more than I paid for the 1100. I'm happy :lol: not only with the gun but also with service these guys gave me. Shop around.


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