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 Post subject: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Tue Jan 10, 2017 10:23 pm 
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Hi,
I bought an 11 87 20 ga. for my daughter after pumping thousands of rounds through my 1100 which never failed. My daughters trigger will not engage. I have replaced the O ring , same result. When I remove barrel nut and slide barrel forward slightly it will fire. I have read http://www.go2gbo.com/forums/47-gunsmit ... oblem.html and still cannot figure out what is causing the problem. It was shooting fine then just stopped so it was assembled right. I sure could use some help. the disconnect and shell release look good.
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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:35 pm 
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Try shooting 1 oz loads

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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 8:43 pm 
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I could shoot a 10 lb load. The hammer will not drop. That's the whole problem. ......But I certainly appreciate your reply and thought. I generally figure this stuff out. It's frustrating when you can't. Thanks again


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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:01 pm 
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Something is pushing on the action sleeve or bars and taking the bolt slightly out of battery.

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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 9:41 pm 
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If I take the barrel nut off and shove barrel slightly forward, it will allow the hammer to engage and swing home. I'm thinking something with the disconnector but don't know what.


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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Wed Jan 11, 2017 10:47 pm 
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Try holding the barrel tight to the receiver with the fore end off and see what happens. Could be the gas piston and/or piston seal are dragging in the barrel gas ring.

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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:34 am 
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Can you hit the bolt handle forward and allow it to go into battery and fire?
My 12 ga. 1187 was like this and I hate to admit, it was a cleaning issue.
Enough carbon had built up in the gas cylinder to prevent it from cycling all the way.
It looked normal as the carbon was pummeled flat an looked very much like the color of the rest of the metal. It was pretty thick.


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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 9:27 am 
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Jim18611865 wrote:
Can you hit the bolt handle forward and allow it to go into battery and fire?
My 12 ga. 1187 was like this and I hate to admit, it was a cleaning issue.
Enough carbon had built up in the gas cylinder to prevent it from cycling all the way.
It looked normal as the carbon was pummeled flat an looked very much like the color of the rest of the metal. It was pretty thick.

Right there is the best bet.
Something is holding the bolt out of battery, and the odds-on-favorite is built-up crud in the gas piston area someplace. It's effectively "shimming" the action out of battery.

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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
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First thing to check is whether the rings are installed correctly. Rings installed backwards will keep the bolt from closing.

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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Thu Jan 12, 2017 7:20 pm 
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You are a genius.
Sweetheart Did you take the gun apart ?
no DAD
You mean it just stopped shooting
Yes Dad
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Did your boyfriend take it apart and not put it back together the right way?
It was the ring order and it was dirty.
Man I am happy about this. I even took the 1100 apart. All looked good til I pulled up a good picture of the rings.
Thanks to all that replied.


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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 7:03 am 
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Hahaha, thats great. I cant help but chuckle. Dont worry Awolf, Im not laugh at but more with you. Ive done the same thing just on a different gun.
Glad you found it and its working again.


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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Sat Jan 14, 2017 3:17 am 
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not the first time the rings get put in wrong and not the last! I've done it more then once with my 1187 skeet after getting in a hurry. :lol:
:arrow: You would think after twenty-five plus years I'd get it right every time?? :oops:


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 Post subject: Re: 11-87 problem
PostPosted: Tue Jan 17, 2017 1:12 am 
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Right ! Especially since I have it's big brother (1100) sitting there.
Thanks again :)




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