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floridaford
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:19 pm |
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moishepipick wrote: floridaford wrote: Because I really enjoy breaking clays with a 20 and a 28 gauge !!!! My best score at the private gun club that I'm a member of was 24 out of 25 on the 5 stand. I did it with a 20 gauge 870 Wingmaster! Nice job indeed. So what was the load weight of the shells you used? 7/8 ounce. I shot a 21 on the next round with my 725 Browning using 1 1/8 ounce. Go figure! My old 20 gauge Wingmaster is the only gun I will take on quail hunt. 28 inch barrel fixed modified choke.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:27 pm |
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Is yours a std or LW configuration?
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:43 pm |
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Rooster booster wrote: Is yours a std or LW configuration? Standard plain barrel no rib. Built in the late 60's I have 10 pump guns Remingtons,Winchester Model 12's and a couple of Ithac's. Enjoy shooting them. I never owned a semi auto or a over and under until about 10 years ago. Just pumps and SxS.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 8:49 pm |
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Pumps are great. I have 3 870 20’s, love them all.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:20 pm |
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So is the real question , why would anyone own anything but a 12 ga. Yildiz and shoot 7\8 loads ? I do it because I can. Nice work with that pump Ford
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:35 pm |
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captjsjr wrote: So is the real question , why would anyone own anything but a 12 ga. Yildiz and shoot 7\8 loads ? I do it because I can. Nice work with that pump Ford  Not what I was asking, but it is good to know. Thanks for sharing.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 9:58 pm |
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captjsjr wrote: So is the real question , why would anyone own anything but a 12 ga. Yildiz and shoot 7\8 loads ? I do it because I can. Nice work with that pump Ford  ;-)
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Fri Aug 14, 2020 10:57 pm |
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Gauge, length (oz. [email protected]) Gun weight (lbs.) Recoil energy (ft. lbs.) .410 bore, 2.5" (1/2 at 1200) 5.5 7.1 .410 bore, 3" (11/16 at 1135) 5.5 10.5 28 gauge, 2.75" (3/4 at 1200) 6.0 12.8 20 gauge, 2.75" (7/8 at 1200) 6.5 16.1 20 gauge, 2.75" (1 at 1220) 6.5 21.0 20 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/8 at 1175) 6.5 25.0 20 gauge, 3" (1 1/4 at 1185) 6.5 31.0 16 gauge, 2.75" (1 at 1220) 7.0 21.5 16 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/8 at 1240) 7.0 27.6 12 gauge, 2.75" (1 at 1180) 7.5 17.3 12 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/8 at 1200) 7.5 23.0 12 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/4 at 1330) 7.5 32.0 12 gauge, 2.75" (1 1/2 at 1260) 7.5 45.0 12 gauge, 3" (1 5/8 at 1280) 7.5 52.0 12 gauge, 3" (1 7/8 at 1210) 8.75 54.0 10 gauge, 3.5" (2 1/4 at 1210) 10.5 62.9
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 6:36 am |
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:51 pm Posts: 10929 Location: Phoenixville PA
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This particular thread starter is a self-contained "BIG-BORE" bigot. He wants to always use a cannon to kill fleas (clay pigeons).
Apparently he doesn't like a SLIGHT challenge for shooting clay pigeons.
To each his own, but I would like to meet him on a sporting clays course when I am shooting my "little" 28 gauge. (And yes, on occasion I use bigger bores as well.) But the smaller bores do OK when you want to challenge yourself, and previous patterning your guns/chokes at various distances so you know their limits helps, as well. (But I will admit, the .410 and 2 1/2" loads is a REAL challenge!)
So don't be afraid to use your favorite smaller bores - they kill live birds just fine, so why not clays?
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 8:56 am |
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Trying not to get in trouble, but if any of you that responded want to look up passive-aggressive behavior in Wikipedia you might find it interesting.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 9:57 am |
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Anybody heard from penman on this topic?
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 10:44 am |
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Has rpenmaker popped back on the scene?
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Sat Aug 15, 2020 4:51 pm |
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I shoot the same sporting clays course every weekend; always shoot a round of 100 and have for about 2 years now. I like shooting different gauges, different loads, different guns because it keeps it interesting. If I had to take the same gauge every time, I'd likely get bored and go back to fishing every weekend.
And for the record, I keep a spreadsheet of every shot I have ever fired. Not any difference in my scores between 12g and 20g. If you told me I had to pick one to shoot, I would likely always take the 20g.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 9:42 am |
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"Not any difference in my scores between 12g and 20g."
Is that pretty much shooting 9/8 0z shot in the 12 gauge or are you shooting reduced loads mostly in the 12gauge?
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Sun Aug 16, 2020 8:36 pm |
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Luke485 wrote: Has rpenmaker popped back on the scene? Ask Morris.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 5:27 am |
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Joined: Sat Feb 05, 2005 4:51 pm Posts: 10929 Location: Phoenixville PA
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Penman now has an alias.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 8:36 am |
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Joined: Tue Nov 15, 2005 9:33 pm Posts: 6533 Location: Mascoutah IL
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I shoot 28 gauge more than any other gauge and it has noting to do with recoil reduction or cost savings. It's just a fun gauge to shoot.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Mon Aug 17, 2020 12:14 pm |
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So I started with a 12 gauge. Not shooting registered or competitive but for fun and to practice for hunting. My wife wanted to start shooting. She has short arms and needed a short (youth) stock. Off of the shelf youth models were 20 gauges. We didn't want to get a 12 gauge and take the time and money to have the stock modified. So she was shooting a 20 gauge and I was shooting a 12 gauge. I bought a SxS 20 gauge to rabbit hunt with and started shooting clays with it. It was nice that my wife and I were shooting the same gauge as we could use the same shells. I discovered that I seemed to hit clays just as good with the 20 gauge as I did with the 12 gauge. Especially if I tightened my choke just a little from what I would use with the 12 gauge. For example, if I would shoot improved cylinder with the 12 gauge for a certain presentation, I would now shoot light modified with the 20 gauge and seem to do just as well. This led to reloading for the 20 gauge and me getting an O/U in 20 gauge. Eventually I was doing all my hunting and target shooting with the 20 gauge and gave my stepson my 12 gauge. Never felt like I was giving up that much using the 20 gauge. For clays, I usually shoot 7/8 ounce in the 20 gauge but sometimes shoot 1 ounce if I know there will be a lot of longer targets. When I used the 12 gauge, I shot mostly 1 ounce loads but also some 1 1/8 ounce loads on occasion too. That's how I ended up shooting the 20 gauge over the 12 gauge.
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:01 pm |
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As a variation on a theme, I'm married to one woman. Why would I want to limit myself to one gun? It's a lot like going to the weekly dance with a different girl. It can be disappointing at the end but it's always exciting getting there; esp when you SCORE!
_________________ NRA Life & Benefactor U.S.Navy carrier flight crew - Viet Nam
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Post subject: Re: Why shoot a smaller bore? Posted: Mon Sep 07, 2020 7:02 pm |
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As a variation on a theme, I'm married to one woman. Why would I want to limit myself to one gun? It's a lot like going to the weekly dance with a different girl. It can be disappointing at the end but it's always exciting getting there; esp when you SCORE! I'm sorry Lord but I just couldn't resist.
_________________ NRA Life & Benefactor U.S.Navy carrier flight crew - Viet Nam
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