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 Post subject: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:03 am 
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I have the opportunity to buy a mint S&W 1000 12gauge semi. What are some opinions on this gun. I have not shot it but have held it and it feels very good, also when were they made?




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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:51 am 
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They were imported by S&W in the early to middle 1980s, I think 1987 was when the M-1000 distributorship was sold to Mossberg. I had a 1000 Super which was the first 3", gas shotgun that could fire all common 2 3/4" shells along with 3" shells. I liked the gun but eventually sold it when I could not find a replacement for a broken extractor.


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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:59 am 
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Made in Japan. Might be ok if you don't hunt in bad weather. The gas piston assembly is exposed under the forearm. Not a very good design in my opinion. Pretty guns though, the couple that came through my shop. I wouldn't buy it myself, but if it fires you up.... Good hunting and good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 1:49 pm 
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I have a 20 ga M1000 which I bought new back around 1980, I think. Never had a problem with it. It is my favor gun for hunting teal in the early season. Re-assembling the action bars tales a little practice, but that's minor. I'd say, if you get a good price on that 12 ga M1000, buy it!


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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 2:42 pm 
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I got a Mossberg 1000 (same gun), and it is wtihout question the finest shotgun I've ever owned or shot. It's almost 20 years old and has never failed to fire in thousands of rounds in some of the worse weather you can imagine. It cost a fraction of what a Remington 1100 was and is still being used long after the Remington gave out. Just clean it after every use.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Tue Dec 20, 2005 11:06 pm 
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I have a mossberg 1000 also. Concerning the gas piston, its located inside the magazine tube. I have had it since 1986 or 87, It has never had a problem. Its a good shotgun, If i was in the market for another shotgun I wouldnt think twice about buying another.


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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 2:13 am 
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HuntNshoot wrote:
Made in Japan. Might be ok if you don't hunt in bad weather. The gas piston assembly is exposed under the forearm. Not a very good design in my opinion.
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What would be a good example of water tight, gas operated, semi-auto shotgun design?

I guess that's why Winchester (101) & Browning (A5) learned from their poor business decisions & ceased the manufacturing of those guns.

Perhaps one day Remington will expand their international theme and make their well designed 1100 out of Siberia, but absolutely not Japan.


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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 12:47 pm 
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The Model 1000 is a very good gun when kept clean. Mine needs to be cleaned every 200 rounds or so or it will start to malfunction. It also doesn't like some of the less expensive hunting rounds (Win. Super Speeds, for example). Overall, if you have a good price I'd get it.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 8:08 pm 
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We have like six of them in the family, I have never seen a gun that could be shot so much and not be cleaned. A couple of them spent summers in the goose pit for year without cleaning.


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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 10:21 pm 
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I shot Pheasants & Quail in Kansas w/my 20g S&W for years in the 80's and 90's...great gun, well balanced, etc. I finally gave mine to my best friend, cause he loved his so much and shot it much better than I did, and parts are just about dried up.. Now he's got 2 and about five barrels. Numrich carries some parts.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 12:24 am 
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I own a 1000M which is the 3" magnum model. Mine is very finicky with certain brands of shells. I like it but very seldom shoot it even with the 2 extra barrels one being a smooth rifle sighted slug.


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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:44 am 
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Wags wrote:
I own a 1000M which is the 3" magnum model. Mine is very finicky with certain brands of shells.


Wags, sounds like yours is a "Super Model 1000". A couple people have them I know and one won't shoot Remingtons. The other don't like Federals. Personally I only use Winchester and haven't had a problem. Mine is not a Super.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 11:50 am 
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mgw40 mentioned that the gas piston is in the magazine tube--this was also my experience when working on one of these guns. There is, however, a connecting ring outside the magazine tube which is pinned to the piston. There is a fairly large slot in the tube for movement. This was what worried me and I believe was the source of the owner's problems. The only other 1000 I worked on was a reassembly--action bars, as mentioned by BobN.

Rkb2--I'm a free market person so I can't argue with you about japanese guns. I love the A5 but can't afford one (or the Win O/U).

Didn't mean to offend anyone by saying anything bad about the 1000. My experience is limited but I'd thought I'd pass it along. The total of all the posts might give the fellow a reasonable idea about what to expect. Good hunting and good luck.

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 Post subject: Re: Smith & Wesson M1000?
PostPosted: Sat Dec 24, 2005 3:40 pm 
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I've heard the term Super Model 1000, but the receiver says 1000M, and this the way the Blue Book lists them. It's a light and beautiful shotgun that does not get much use. It likes Kent Tungsten Matrix 3" shells, and 2 3/4" Winchester and Estate heavier loads. This shotgun does not have screw in chokes. The 30" barrels have only one gas hole in the barrels. The slug barrel has two gas holes and shoots slugs reliably.




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